Comments on: 16GB CF card with 45MB/s write speed is worth a test! http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/ portable pc, mobile computer, pocket pc and handheld computing Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:29:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: admin http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1529 admin Sun, 11 May 2008 12:16:55 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1529 Great stuff. Lets make sure we try and keep the testing info in the forum as it will be more helpful. <a href="http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2990 rel="nofollow">Forum thread is here.</a> Steve Great stuff.

Lets make sure we try and keep the testing info in the forum as it will be more helpful.
Forum thread is here.
Steve

]]> By: q4scjtg http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1502 q4scjtg Sat, 10 May 2008 12:30:22 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1502 Just got my 8gig 300x transend last night. Seriously, if you want one of these cards, go with mydigitaldiscount, 3 days and the cheapest I found. I installed XP pro (nlited with SP3), took under 10 minutes. I installed using an express/54 slot adapter as my IDE and SATA adapters should be arriving early next week. Not sure how to get the system to boot from this, after the install and reboot it's not being recognized on it's own after the bios is passed. If anyone has any ideas, let me know (my card is fat32 and set as the boot drive, I disconnected my IDE drive so it won't try to load it). Gonna do some research today, I'll post some performace results once I get the adapter if I can't figure this out. Just got my 8gig 300x transend last night. Seriously, if you want one of these cards, go with mydigitaldiscount, 3 days and the cheapest I found. I installed XP pro (nlited with SP3), took under 10 minutes. I installed using an express/54 slot adapter as my IDE and SATA adapters should be arriving early next week. Not sure how to get the system to boot from this, after the install and reboot it’s not being recognized on it’s own after the bios is passed. If anyone has any ideas, let me know (my card is fat32 and set as the boot drive, I disconnected my IDE drive so it won’t try to load it). Gonna do some research today, I’ll post some performace results once I get the adapter if I can’t figure this out.

]]> By: chippy http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1410 chippy Fri, 09 May 2008 07:52:16 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1410 nomonia. Some of these CF cards have wear-leveling as I mentioned in the article. Will. Thanks for the very interesting link although max write speeds for 4200 1.8" drives are much less than the figures shown in that doc. 50MBps is about the fastest i've seen with averages going down to 25-30MBps. Steve. nomonia. Some of these CF cards have wear-leveling as I mentioned in the article.

Will. Thanks for the very interesting link although max write speeds for 4200 1.8″ drives are much less than the figures shown in that doc. 50MBps is about the fastest i’ve seen with averages going down to 25-30MBps.

Steve.

]]> By: Will http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1399 Will Thu, 08 May 2008 23:43:50 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1399 I'm looking forward to your test results Chippy. There has been a lot of talk recently about whether SSDs are worth it with people noting minimal speed improvements on the Dell and Macbook Air SSDs. The problem with SSDs is its poor write performance which may offset any gains from the SSDs' read performance advantage. Have a look at this article: http://www.storagesearch.com/easyco-flashperformance-art.pdf I’m looking forward to your test results Chippy. There has been a lot of talk recently about whether SSDs are worth it with people noting minimal speed improvements on the Dell and Macbook Air SSDs.

The problem with SSDs is its poor write performance which may offset any gains from the SSDs’ read performance advantage. Have a look at this article:
http://www.storagesearch.com/easyco-flashperformance-art.pdf

]]> By: nonomia http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1397 nonomia Thu, 08 May 2008 22:45:43 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1397 I agree to Elmstrom, SSD have higher function to use as an OS drive such as wear leveling. From my experience, without this function the CF card can be dead very easily. I have very bad memory.. T.T I agree to Elmstrom, SSD have higher function to use as an OS drive such as wear leveling. From my experience, without this function the CF card can be dead very easily.
I have very bad memory.. T.T

]]> By: nonomia http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1395 nonomia Thu, 08 May 2008 22:35:43 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1395 RiDATA, A-DATA : I can not find it can support UDMA transfer mode, except highest speed but low capacity (A-DATA Turbo serise, RiDATA Supreme serise) Trnscend models can support UDMA mode as belows 133x 32GB $169 [TS32GCF133] no leveraging, 300x 16GB $230 [TS16GCF300] and leveraging at newegg Latest model from Sandisk extreme IV can support UDMA 4, leveraging (?) and maximum capacity is 8GB only. RiDATA, A-DATA : I can not find it can support UDMA transfer mode, except highest speed but low capacity (A-DATA Turbo serise, RiDATA Supreme serise)

Trnscend models can support UDMA mode as belows
133x 32GB $169 [TS32GCF133] no leveraging, 300x 16GB $230 [TS16GCF300] and leveraging at newegg

Latest model from Sandisk extreme IV can support UDMA 4, leveraging (?) and maximum capacity is 8GB only.

]]> By: Elmstrom http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1394 Elmstrom Thu, 08 May 2008 22:35:42 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1394 I can only recomend playing around with this, its fun and "cheap". But keep and eye out for a good deal, cause it seams price on CF cards is not a stable thing. I can only recomend playing around with this, its fun and “cheap”. But keep and eye out for a good deal, cause it seams price on CF cards is not a stable thing.

]]> By: CL http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1387 CL Thu, 08 May 2008 21:38:59 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1387 Oh ok, btw, I found this 32gb 233x CF card on newegg.com ,may worth a look! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183191 Oh ok, btw, I found this 32gb 233x CF card on newegg.com ,may worth a look!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183191

]]> By: chippy http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1386 chippy Thu, 08 May 2008 21:24:50 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1386 The BIOS shouldn't see anything other than a HD. The Everun can boot from the drive bay rather than flash if needed. Steve. The BIOS shouldn’t see anything other than a HD.
The Everun can boot from the drive bay rather than flash if needed.

Steve.

]]> By: CL http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1384 CL Thu, 08 May 2008 21:07:18 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1384 But I wonder if the BIOS will let you boot from a CF card? I just ordered a Lifebook u810, if it works that way, I may have to try that! But I wonder if the BIOS will let you boot from a CF card? I just ordered a Lifebook u810, if it works that way, I may have to try that!

]]> By: chippy http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1381 chippy Thu, 08 May 2008 20:51:29 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1381 q4scjtg Thats a great article. Thanks for the link. It might take some days for the adaptor to arrive as its only on 2-3days delivery so I dont expect to be doing anything until next week but i'll be sure to keep you updated. Voicoder. Yes, its highly probably that the Everun can't throuput that much but if it's as fast as the 22MB/s hard disk, its going to be faster than the flash on the motherboard. The main aim is to test it in the Q1 Ultra though. If it works - as Elmstrom seems to have done - I might go for a 16GB version on the Q1 Ultra Premium (with 2GB and HSDPA of course). Ooooooooooh sweeeeeeet! TSO, thanks for the link. I doubt it will fit a 5mm drive height bay tho. Steve. q4scjtg

Thats a great article. Thanks for the link.
It might take some days for the adaptor to arrive as its only on 2-3days delivery so I dont expect to be doing anything until next week but i’ll be sure to keep you updated.

Voicoder. Yes, its highly probably that the Everun can’t throuput that much but if it’s as fast as the 22MB/s hard disk, its going to be faster than the flash on the motherboard. The main aim is to test it in the Q1 Ultra though. If it works – as Elmstrom seems to have done – I might go for a 16GB version on the Q1 Ultra Premium (with 2GB and HSDPA of course). Ooooooooooh sweeeeeeet!

TSO, thanks for the link. I doubt it will fit a 5mm drive height bay tho.

Steve.

]]> By: voidcoder http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1374 voidcoder Thu, 08 May 2008 19:25:57 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1374 A small fly to your ointment, are you sure the Everun CF reader can give you that throughput? A small fly to your ointment, are you sure the Everun CF reader can give you that throughput?

]]> By: q4scjtg http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1373 q4scjtg Thu, 08 May 2008 19:19:54 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1373 Hi there Chippy, amazing work you guys do keeping us all informed and such. I've been doing a lot of research with CF - sata drives, the addonics website offers a great tutorial that can be found here: http://www.addonics.com/support/faqs/faq-bootcf.asp I've got my 8 gig 300x transcend on order from mydigitaldiscount.com as they seem to have the best prices online (I've searched literally everywhere). I'm going to be putting mine in the HP 2133 mini-note once I can order it in Canada. For now I'll be testing using an IDE adapter from ebay in my Acer aspire (aka junk, but gotta work with what you have lol). I'd be really interested in hearing your review and findings on performance. If you can update me once you have those that'd be great. Once I have my 2133 I'll do some performance testing as well. Important thing to remember with CF (I'm sure you already know this) remember to turn off the windows XP paging file to limit writes to the drive and increase it's life. Cheers Hi there Chippy, amazing work you guys do keeping us all informed and such. I’ve been doing a lot of research with CF – sata drives, the addonics website offers a great tutorial that can be found here:
http://www.addonics.com/support/faqs/faq-bootcf.asp
I’ve got my 8 gig 300x transcend on order from mydigitaldiscount.com as they seem to have the best prices online (I’ve searched literally everywhere). I’m going to be putting mine in the HP 2133 mini-note once I can order it in Canada. For now I’ll be testing using an IDE adapter from ebay in my Acer aspire (aka junk, but gotta work with what you have lol). I’d be really interested in hearing your review and findings on performance. If you can update me once you have those that’d be great. Once I have my 2133 I’ll do some performance testing as well. Important thing to remember with CF (I’m sure you already know this) remember to turn off the windows XP paging file to limit writes to the drive and increase it’s life. Cheers

]]> By: turn.self.off http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1371 turn.self.off Thu, 08 May 2008 18:47:21 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/16gb-cf-card-with-45mbs-write-speed-is-worth-a-test/#comment-1371 hmm, i recall reading about a ide drive adapter that could take 3-4 CF cards... bingo, found it on engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/23/centurys-sata-adapter-supports-3-cf-cards-cheap-ssds-for-all/ hmm, i recall reading about a ide drive adapter that could take 3-4 CF cards…

bingo, found it on engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/23/centurys-sata-adapter-supports-3-cf-cards-cheap-ssds-for-all/

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