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	<title>Comments on: Opera Mobile 9.5 to Elevate Smartphones into MID territory?</title>
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		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/opera-mobile-95-to-elevate-smartphones-into-mid-territory#comment-3311</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/opera-mobile-95-to-elevate-smartphones-into-mid-territory#comment-2335</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;&#62;&#62;I bought the REDFLY because I looked at it as a way to have a large keyboard and display that was usble with any Windows Mobile device with virtually unlimkted upgrade options and a longer life than any other mobile device I have because it just progresses right long with the connected platform.

Well DUH! on me for not thinking of it outside of your using it just with the HTC!  I hope Celio stays in business and gives you drivers as new WM devices appear!

&#62;&#62;&#62;I actually do not realy carry both the Advantage and REDFLY togwether unless I know I have heavy surfing to do nd have a light bag or I am taking a flight.

Yeah, comprehensive portability vs. ad-hoc capability, or an EeePC vs HTC.  I think I need the first, first!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;I bought the REDFLY because I looked at it as a way to have a large keyboard and display that was usble with any Windows Mobile device with virtually unlimkted upgrade options and a longer life than any other mobile device I have because it just progresses right long with the connected platform.</p>
<p>Well DUH! on me for not thinking of it outside of your using it just with the HTC!  I hope Celio stays in business and gives you drivers as new WM devices appear!</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;I actually do not realy carry both the Advantage and REDFLY togwether unless I know I have heavy surfing to do nd have a light bag or I am taking a flight.</p>
<p>Yeah, comprehensive portability vs. ad-hoc capability, or an EeePC vs HTC.  I think I need the first, first!</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/opera-mobile-95-to-elevate-smartphones-into-mid-territory#comment-2222</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 22:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, sounds like the 75xx is not for you. I don't think I could consider it a serious work device. It keeps me connected on the go, gives me nice extras like GPS and is a pretty good PMP and is great for bedroom/couch surfing, but I wouldn't personally want to start editing  documents and photos on it.

Obviously that still leaves you a billion things to choose from. If price is an issue then the eee type laptops are the way forward, if a UMPC is a possibility then something like a Q1U Permium with the organiser kit would be great.

Or maybe checkout the classifieds, there is a nice Fujitsu going cheap...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, sounds like the 75xx is not for you. I don&#8217;t think I could consider it a serious work device. It keeps me connected on the go, gives me nice extras like GPS and is a pretty good PMP and is great for bedroom/couch surfing, but I wouldn&#8217;t personally want to start editing  documents and photos on it.</p>
<p>Obviously that still leaves you a billion things to choose from. If price is an issue then the eee type laptops are the way forward, if a UMPC is a possibility then something like a Q1U Permium with the organiser kit would be great.</p>
<p>Or maybe checkout the classifieds, there is a nice Fujitsu going cheap&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Miller (aka palmsolo)</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/opera-mobile-95-to-elevate-smartphones-into-mid-territory#comment-2221</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Miller (aka palmsolo)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 22:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

I am not sure you can compaethw two since the Advantage is more of a companon device witha limted OS. That said, I already have a full PC and don't want another one. I don't think I am a good person to look for when it comes to finding a single device since I like to ply with everything and have more than I need.

I bought the REDFLY because I looked at it as a way to have a large keyboard and display that was usble with any Windows Mobile device with virtually unlimkted upgrade options and a longer life than any other mobile device I have because it just progresses right long with the connected platform.

I actually do not realy carry both the Advantage and REDFLY togwether unless I know I have heavy surfing to do nd have a light bag or I am taking a flight. The Advantage is invaluable with thew wireless connectivty, large display, GPS, and more. Like I said in my review, if I was going to purchase one riht now I would go for the 7500 and "upgrade" it.

BTW, I am writing this on the 7510 on the train :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I am not sure you can compaethw two since the Advantage is more of a companon device witha limted OS. That said, I already have a full PC and don&#8217;t want another one. I don&#8217;t think I am a good person to look for when it comes to finding a single device since I like to ply with everything and have more than I need.</p>
<p>I bought the REDFLY because I looked at it as a way to have a large keyboard and display that was usble with any Windows Mobile device with virtually unlimkted upgrade options and a longer life than any other mobile device I have because it just progresses right long with the connected platform.</p>
<p>I actually do not realy carry both the Advantage and REDFLY togwether unless I know I have heavy surfing to do nd have a light bag or I am taking a flight. The Advantage is invaluable with thew wireless connectivty, large display, GPS, and more. Like I said in my review, if I was going to purchase one riht now I would go for the 7500 and &#8220;upgrade&#8221; it.</p>
<p>BTW, I am writing this on the 7510 on the train <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/opera-mobile-95-to-elevate-smartphones-into-mid-territory#comment-2220</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 22:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can compare the two because of my personal use, so the apples vs oranges works for *me*.  My bombastic headline is to defy James Kendrick and his continuing taunting of me.

I have a set of apps that I use for blogging.  The e900 would let me use the same apps on the go.

I'm not sure if similar apps exist for WinMob.  It seems there's no real blogging software other than SixApart's customized one for its TypePad blog platform.

I need to crop, rescale photos before uploading to my blog.

Then there are Firefox plug-ins.  Yeesh.

BTW, the US version of the 75xx only has the camera on the back.  A minor point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can compare the two because of my personal use, so the apples vs oranges works for *me*.  My bombastic headline is to defy James Kendrick and his continuing taunting of me.</p>
<p>I have a set of apps that I use for blogging.  The e900 would let me use the same apps on the go.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if similar apps exist for WinMob.  It seems there&#8217;s no real blogging software other than SixApart&#8217;s customized one for its TypePad blog platform.</p>
<p>I need to crop, rescale photos before uploading to my blog.</p>
<p>Then there are Firefox plug-ins.  Yeesh.</p>
<p>BTW, the US version of the 75xx only has the camera on the back.  A minor point.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/opera-mobile-95-to-elevate-smartphones-into-mid-territory#comment-2219</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 22:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, how can you compare the two? The eee900 is a small laptop and the 7500 is essentially a MID. It depends what you want and how you are going to use it.

Sure the 7500 costs more (although used they are 'cheap') but over the 900 it has a GPS, a touchscreen, is much smaller, has 3G/HSDPA built in (and can be used as a phone) and it has dual cameras and bluetooth which I think the 900 lacks too.

The 900 gives you the full PC experience, it has a proper keyboard, XP and a big screen. Whilst it is very portable, you are still going to need extra hardware to use it away from wifi if you need connectivity.
 
Oh, and for 7500 users, the beta of the next ROM AP5 is now available... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, how can you compare the two? The eee900 is a small laptop and the 7500 is essentially a MID. It depends what you want and how you are going to use it.</p>
<p>Sure the 7500 costs more (although used they are &#8216;cheap&#8217;) but over the 900 it has a GPS, a touchscreen, is much smaller, has 3G/HSDPA built in (and can be used as a phone) and it has dual cameras and bluetooth which I think the 900 lacks too.</p>
<p>The 900 gives you the full PC experience, it has a proper keyboard, XP and a big screen. Whilst it is very portable, you are still going to need extra hardware to use it away from wifi if you need connectivity.</p>
<p>Oh, and for 7500 users, the beta of the next ROM AP5 is now available&#8230; <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/opera-mobile-95-to-elevate-smartphones-into-mid-territory#comment-2218</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 21:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ARGH!  I don't know why I am still listening to you Advantage fanatics!  I'm certain the Asus e900 would do me well:
http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/the-asus-e900-crushes-the-htc-advantage/

Still, I d/led that ROM.  Wait, did I type that?

Anyway, given that Matt Miller is using a 75xx &#38; Celio Redfly for more bulk, less capability, and more cost than an e900, I'd like to see him address that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARGH!  I don&#8217;t know why I am still listening to you Advantage fanatics!  I&#8217;m certain the Asus e900 would do me well:<br />
<a href="http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/the-asus-e900-crushes-the-htc-advantage/" rel="nofollow">http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/the-asus-e900-crushes-the-htc-advantage/</a></p>
<p>Still, I d/led that ROM.  Wait, did I type that?</p>
<p>Anyway, given that Matt Miller is using a 75xx &amp; Celio Redfly for more bulk, less capability, and more cost than an e900, I&#8217;d like to see him address that!</p>
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		<title>By: chippy</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/opera-mobile-95-to-elevate-smartphones-into-mid-territory#comment-2179</link>
		<dc:creator>chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 22:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matt Miller
"30+ 3rd party apps"

For  a device to crash just twice in 9 months with that amount of 3d party software on it is pretty good!

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt Miller<br />
&#8220;30+ 3rd party apps&#8221;</p>
<p>For  a device to crash just twice in 9 months with that amount of 3d party software on it is pretty good!</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Miller (aka palmsolo)</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/opera-mobile-95-to-elevate-smartphones-into-mid-territory#comment-2165</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Miller (aka palmsolo)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike Cane: I am not sure how they get by with doing it now, but the Athena Project 4 ROM is there and available in all its glory. (Shhh, I upgraded my Advantage 7501 and IMHO it is better than the 7510 due in large part to the cool auto-rotate feature.)

The only issue I have seen in over 9 months of use was 2 times it "disappeared". A soft reset fixed it and it may have been one of the 30+ 3rd party apps that caused the issue. I have never had heat issues or anything else with the Microdrive and if they didn't tell me it was a hard drive I would have thought it was flash because it doesn't even make noise or vibrate.

The 7510 does have 16GB of flash, which is quite a bonus too. The loss of 3 hardware buttons on the device though is a real bummer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike Cane: I am not sure how they get by with doing it now, but the Athena Project 4 ROM is there and available in all its glory. (Shhh, I upgraded my Advantage 7501 and IMHO it is better than the 7510 due in large part to the cool auto-rotate feature.)</p>
<p>The only issue I have seen in over 9 months of use was 2 times it &#8220;disappeared&#8221;. A soft reset fixed it and it may have been one of the 30+ 3rd party apps that caused the issue. I have never had heat issues or anything else with the Microdrive and if they didn&#8217;t tell me it was a hard drive I would have thought it was flash because it doesn&#8217;t even make noise or vibrate.</p>
<p>The 7510 does have 16GB of flash, which is quite a bonus too. The loss of 3 hardware buttons on the device though is a real bummer.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/opera-mobile-95-to-elevate-smartphones-into-mid-territory#comment-2164</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Athena Project ROM, complete with Opera 9.5 (but there is a newer build to download now) can be found here:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387409

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Athena Project ROM, complete with Opera 9.5 (but there is a newer build to download now) can be found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387409" rel="nofollow">http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387409</a></p>
<p> <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/opera-mobile-95-to-elevate-smartphones-into-mid-territory#comment-2163</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn't the 7501 replace the Microdrive with solid state?

Anyway, not heard any horror stories, but then I've not looked hard and mine seems ok!

Xda devs obviously found a way around the ROMs issue, the Kaiser and Athena (Advantage/x7500 etc) is quite obvious in sticky threads in the appropriate forums!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t the 7501 replace the Microdrive with solid state?</p>
<p>Anyway, not heard any horror stories, but then I&#8217;ve not looked hard and mine seems ok!</p>
<p>Xda devs obviously found a way around the ROMs issue, the Kaiser and Athena (Advantage/x7500 etc) is quite obvious in sticky threads in the appropriate forums!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/opera-mobile-95-to-elevate-smartphones-into-mid-territory#comment-2160</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Marc: The thing about the 7500/7501 is the MicroDrive.  From what I've been reading, it's caused the same amount of trouble as the MicroDrive in the Palm LifeDrive.  Has anyone anywhere swapped out that HD for a CF card?  (I have a LifeDrive with CF.)  I know VuFlo would be gone, but it's not in the 7510 anyway.

@Matthew: I look forward to that review!

Cooked ROMs?!  From where?  From what I understand, MS sent a C&#38;D to xda-devs.  The ROMs are now hidden somewhere.

BTW, I've also read up on the VGAed iPaq 412 (is that the right number?  The 4" screen recently out).  Seems to be a dog with many problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Marc: The thing about the 7500/7501 is the MicroDrive.  From what I&#8217;ve been reading, it&#8217;s caused the same amount of trouble as the MicroDrive in the Palm LifeDrive.  Has anyone anywhere swapped out that HD for a CF card?  (I have a LifeDrive with CF.)  I know VuFlo would be gone, but it&#8217;s not in the 7510 anyway.</p>
<p>@Matthew: I look forward to that review!</p>
<p>Cooked ROMs?!  From where?  From what I understand, MS sent a C&amp;D to xda-devs.  The ROMs are now hidden somewhere.</p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;ve also read up on the VGAed iPaq 412 (is that the right number?  The 4&#8243; screen recently out).  Seems to be a dog with many problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/opera-mobile-95-to-elevate-smartphones-into-mid-territory#comment-2157</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look forward to your review Matthew, please post a link here to it.

I'm pleased to hear the comment about a 7500 over a 7510. I'd hate to feel like I needed a new device so soon after picking up a 'cheap' 7500! I mainly use it as a tablet, so if there are any keyboard advantages these are lost on me, and everything else seems a step back or no update at all apart from the ROM and AP4 takes that ROM and makes it better!

Apparently the AP5 ROM is due very soon too now which can only be good news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look forward to your review Matthew, please post a link here to it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pleased to hear the comment about a 7500 over a 7510. I&#8217;d hate to feel like I needed a new device so soon after picking up a &#8216;cheap&#8217; 7500! I mainly use it as a tablet, so if there are any keyboard advantages these are lost on me, and everything else seems a step back or no update at all apart from the ROM and AP4 takes that ROM and makes it better!</p>
<p>Apparently the AP5 ROM is due very soon too now which can only be good news.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Miller (aka palmsolo)</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/opera-mobile-95-to-elevate-smartphones-into-mid-territory#comment-2156</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Miller (aka palmsolo)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Cane,

My full review of the new Advantage 7510 should be going up late tonight/tomorrow morning and as you will read I think you may want to consider the 7500/7501 and then put the Athena Project 4 ROM on there to get a device that may be better than the 7510 in many respects (like Marc above recommended).

I personally could care less about Flash on a mobile device and just don't visit sites that use only Flash content and really find it to be a non-issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Cane,</p>
<p>My full review of the new Advantage 7510 should be going up late tonight/tomorrow morning and as you will read I think you may want to consider the 7500/7501 and then put the Athena Project 4 ROM on there to get a device that may be better than the 7510 in many respects (like Marc above recommended).</p>
<p>I personally could care less about Flash on a mobile device and just don&#8217;t visit sites that use only Flash content and really find it to be a non-issue.</p>
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		<title>By: turn.self.off</title>
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		<dc:creator>turn.self.off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 10:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i guess one cant avoid it, but one sure can ignore it ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i guess one cant avoid it, but one sure can ignore it <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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