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	<title>Comments on: Mobile Broadband Rates dropping again in EU.</title>
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		<title>By: Sim only</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/06/mobile-broadband-rates-dropping-again-in-eu/#comment-22343</link>
		<dc:creator>Sim only</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 17:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mobile broadband prices will constantly drop just like sim only calling and text tariffs. The best for your wallet is buying a sim only contract these days. It will save you lots of money. There also are European webshops for sim only contracts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mobile broadband prices will constantly drop just like sim only calling and text tariffs. The best for your wallet is buying a sim only contract these days. It will save you lots of money. There also are European webshops for sim only contracts.</p>
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		<title>By: mw65719</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/06/mobile-broadband-rates-dropping-again-in-eu/#comment-4060</link>
		<dc:creator>mw65719</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the services Victorvox (they are behind &quot;Moobi&quot;) offers (MoobiAir using T-Mobile or MoobiCent using Vodafone) currently give you the best value for your money (even if they limit usage to 10GB/month - almost everybody else is limiting this to 5GB) if you stay within Germany.
However, they really &quot;kill&quot; you with their roaming charges which -depending on the country - are between €0.39 and €0.79 per 50kb - don&#039;t even think about downloading that email with the few pictures attached - unless you really want to spend €5 to €10.00 for that single email.
These roaming prices are only for MoobiAir. I have searched the whole MoobiCent website, looked into all the fine print and all I could find regarding roaming is that it is not activated as part of the standard service but that it can be activated at the requeest of the client (or without special request if the client is &quot;behaving well&quot;) and that additional charges will apply.
It would be really interesting to have a database of pay-as-you-go or prepaid providers in all countries so that if someone is spending a longer time there (e.g. backpacking in Australia), they could just look the country up and find a provider where they don&#039;t have to sign an n-month contract and still be able to go online with a decent speed at a decent price.

Regarding VoIP and IM: Interestingly enough this is only forbidden in MoobiAir, there is nothing about this in the fine print for MoobiCent.
b.t.w., Skype and SIP are typical examples of VoIP and afaik they are using different ports than http, ftp, pop, imap, etc., so in theory those ports could be monitored and also potentially blocked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the services Victorvox (they are behind &#8220;Moobi&#8221;) offers (MoobiAir using T-Mobile or MoobiCent using Vodafone) currently give you the best value for your money (even if they limit usage to 10GB/month &#8211; almost everybody else is limiting this to 5GB) if you stay within Germany.<br />
However, they really &#8220;kill&#8221; you with their roaming charges which -depending on the country &#8211; are between €0.39 and €0.79 per 50kb &#8211; don&#8217;t even think about downloading that email with the few pictures attached &#8211; unless you really want to spend €5 to €10.00 for that single email.<br />
These roaming prices are only for MoobiAir. I have searched the whole MoobiCent website, looked into all the fine print and all I could find regarding roaming is that it is not activated as part of the standard service but that it can be activated at the requeest of the client (or without special request if the client is &#8220;behaving well&#8221;) and that additional charges will apply.<br />
It would be really interesting to have a database of pay-as-you-go or prepaid providers in all countries so that if someone is spending a longer time there (e.g. backpacking in Australia), they could just look the country up and find a provider where they don&#8217;t have to sign an n-month contract and still be able to go online with a decent speed at a decent price.</p>
<p>Regarding VoIP and IM: Interestingly enough this is only forbidden in MoobiAir, there is nothing about this in the fine print for MoobiCent.<br />
b.t.w., Skype and SIP are typical examples of VoIP and afaik they are using different ports than http, ftp, pop, imap, etc., so in theory those ports could be monitored and also potentially blocked.</p>
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		<title>By: saab_rider</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/06/mobile-broadband-rates-dropping-again-in-eu/#comment-3952</link>
		<dc:creator>saab_rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been trying to find out info about mobile broadband options in the US. I wanted something for the summer, but it doesn&#039;t seem promising:
http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=32565

The cap their is about 5GB, and you only have 1 HSDPA provider; AT&amp;T. T-Mobile just started providing HSDPA, and I think they only released it in NY not too long ago.

Other 3G providers all use EV-DO.

To make it worse, I also believe they only offer 3G connections with a contract, so no pay as you go option!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been trying to find out info about mobile broadband options in the US. I wanted something for the summer, but it doesn&#8217;t seem promising:<br />
<a href="http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=32565" rel="nofollow">http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=32565</a></p>
<p>The cap their is about 5GB, and you only have 1 HSDPA provider; AT&amp;T. T-Mobile just started providing HSDPA, and I think they only released it in NY not too long ago.</p>
<p>Other 3G providers all use EV-DO.</p>
<p>To make it worse, I also believe they only offer 3G connections with a contract, so no pay as you go option!</p>
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		<title>By: Elmstrom</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/06/mobile-broadband-rates-dropping-again-in-eu/#comment-3939</link>
		<dc:creator>Elmstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got 512/512 HSPDA for 26,70 euro a month, the cool thing is that they don’t enforce the speed limit so i get about 2000/512 on my eten phone. And they have also removed the 10 GB limit, and now it just say that u may not use the line for hosting a fileserver. And the 10 GB was in the first place, only a soft limit.

This is Denmark, and 3mobile.

All the major mobilphone companies in Denmark, have an flat-rate option for data now. Last year only 1 had it. So it’s going the right way, now we just need some price wars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got 512/512 HSPDA for 26,70 euro a month, the cool thing is that they don’t enforce the speed limit so i get about 2000/512 on my eten phone. And they have also removed the 10 GB limit, and now it just say that u may not use the line for hosting a fileserver. And the 10 GB was in the first place, only a soft limit.</p>
<p>This is Denmark, and 3mobile.</p>
<p>All the major mobilphone companies in Denmark, have an flat-rate option for data now. Last year only 1 had it. So it’s going the right way, now we just need some price wars.</p>
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		<title>By: NobbyNobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/06/mobile-broadband-rates-dropping-again-in-eu/#comment-3914</link>
		<dc:creator>NobbyNobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blocking skype is also nearly impossible.  
Imho they just introduced these passages, so they could easily get rid of customers that cause too much traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blocking skype is also nearly impossible.<br />
Imho they just introduced these passages, so they could easily get rid of customers that cause too much traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: chippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK 10GB is a huge amount but yes, you are right about the limit.
I always wondered what they mean by VOIP. Skype and SIP perhaps? IM blocking is almost impossible as there are some nice solutions that run over IP. Gizmo project and Meebo spring to mind.

Thanks for the feedback.
Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK 10GB is a huge amount but yes, you are right about the limit.<br />
I always wondered what they mean by VOIP. Skype and SIP perhaps? IM blocking is almost impossible as there are some nice solutions that run over IP. Gizmo project and Meebo spring to mind.</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback.<br />
Steve.</p>
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		<title>By: NobbyNobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/06/mobile-broadband-rates-dropping-again-in-eu/#comment-3910</link>
		<dc:creator>NobbyNobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just checked the webite of moobiair.
Reduction to 64kbit/s after 10GB/month and voip and instant messaging(!?!) are not allowed!

And for moobicent:
Also reduction to gprs after 10GB/month (they didn`t have this when I suscribed one year ago).

You can get the same conditions at vodafone or t-mobile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just checked the webite of moobiair.<br />
Reduction to 64kbit/s after 10GB/month and voip and instant messaging(!?!) are not allowed!</p>
<p>And for moobicent:<br />
Also reduction to gprs after 10GB/month (they didn`t have this when I suscribed one year ago).</p>
<p>You can get the same conditions at vodafone or t-mobile.</p>
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		<title>By: NobbyNobbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>NobbyNobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You get a 6-month contract on the T-Mobile backbone in Germany (widely considered to be the best here) for just 34Euro per month. That’s un-proxied, no-limits, 7.2mbps Internet access.&quot;
That`s not correct. If you cause too much traffic, the transfer rate gets reduced to gprs-speed. Afaik the limit is 10GB. The same goes for moobicent which offers the same for the vodafone backbone for 39€/month (although it`s unclaer when they start reduction of bandwidth here).

But 10GB are more enough for my mobile needs.
However, there is a big issue:
As soon as you leave your country, mobile internet gets really, really expensive. Roaming costs really are way to high. In most cases an unlimited high-speed internet access via cable/dsl costs less than to download 10MB in a foreign country with your phone. It`s a shame!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You get a 6-month contract on the T-Mobile backbone in Germany (widely considered to be the best here) for just 34Euro per month. That’s un-proxied, no-limits, 7.2mbps Internet access.&#8221;<br />
That`s not correct. If you cause too much traffic, the transfer rate gets reduced to gprs-speed. Afaik the limit is 10GB. The same goes for moobicent which offers the same for the vodafone backbone for 39€/month (although it`s unclaer when they start reduction of bandwidth here).</p>
<p>But 10GB are more enough for my mobile needs.<br />
However, there is a big issue:<br />
As soon as you leave your country, mobile internet gets really, really expensive. Roaming costs really are way to high. In most cases an unlimited high-speed internet access via cable/dsl costs less than to download 10MB in a foreign country with your phone. It`s a shame!</p>
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