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	<title>Comments on: kohijnsha SC3 review over at Pocketables. Looks like we&#8217;ve got another good UMPC Choice. Even Vista works!</title>
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		<title>By: Devin</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/07/kohijnsha-sc3-review-over-at-pocketables-looks-like-weve-got-another-good-umpc-choice-even-vista-works#comment-5557</link>
		<dc:creator>Devin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to update, my Microsoft Cash Back Live account shows a refund pending with an availability date of 9/18/2008 less than 24h after purchase.

Additionally, both DTFJ and Tabak are accessible via this offer, but you must search "kohjinsha" in eBay instead of "kohjinsha sc3" to locate DTFJ's listing.

-Devin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to update, my Microsoft Cash Back Live account shows a refund pending with an availability date of 9/18/2008 less than 24h after purchase.</p>
<p>Additionally, both DTFJ and Tabak are accessible via this offer, but you must search &#8220;kohjinsha&#8221; in eBay instead of &#8220;kohjinsha sc3&#8243; to locate DTFJ&#8217;s listing.</p>
<p>-Devin</p>
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		<title>By: heavyharmonies</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/07/kohijnsha-sc3-review-over-at-pocketables-looks-like-weve-got-another-good-umpc-choice-even-vista-works#comment-5556</link>
		<dc:creator>heavyharmonies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once I make some restore DVDs with Acronis Trueimage, I'm tempted to try installing XP tablet edition 2005... would love to see how it hums under XP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once I make some restore DVDs with Acronis Trueimage, I&#8217;m tempted to try installing XP tablet edition 2005&#8230; would love to see how it hums under XP.</p>
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		<title>By: chippy</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/07/kohijnsha-sc3-review-over-at-pocketables-looks-like-weve-got-another-good-umpc-choice-even-vista-works#comment-5547</link>
		<dc:creator>chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. Ultimate gives you the language pack and, importantly, XP downgrade rights!
Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. Ultimate gives you the language pack and, importantly, XP downgrade rights!<br />
Steve</p>
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		<title>By: heavyharmonies</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/07/kohijnsha-sc3-review-over-at-pocketables-looks-like-weve-got-another-good-umpc-choice-even-vista-works#comment-5545</link>
		<dc:creator>heavyharmonies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chippy,

Actually the price is a wash. As I was racking my brain on whom to purchase the SC3 from (DFJ, conincs.net, kabatek.com, dynamism.com, eBay sellers), with the exception of Dynamism, who was always considerably higher, they all came out within $50 of one another on delivered price.

Which would make sense, as several of those web sites, as well as the eBay sellers, are the same entities. There's really only 3-4 distinctly separate sources for these on the English-language internet (who knows how many sources there are that I can't read about).

The three advantages that I noticed from DFJ as opposed to others are:

1. Free SD card for readyboost (minimal, but nice)

2. You get Vista Ultimate; the others offer Vista Home or Vista Premium.

3. In the event of warranty issues, DFJ pays for shipping both ways; all the other vendors require you to pay 1-way-shipping to Japan to return the unit.

If not for the eBay coupons and cash back, I most likely would have ordered from DFJ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chippy,</p>
<p>Actually the price is a wash. As I was racking my brain on whom to purchase the SC3 from (DFJ, conincs.net, kabatek.com, dynamism.com, eBay sellers), with the exception of Dynamism, who was always considerably higher, they all came out within $50 of one another on delivered price.</p>
<p>Which would make sense, as several of those web sites, as well as the eBay sellers, are the same entities. There&#8217;s really only 3-4 distinctly separate sources for these on the English-language internet (who knows how many sources there are that I can&#8217;t read about).</p>
<p>The three advantages that I noticed from DFJ as opposed to others are:</p>
<p>1. Free SD card for readyboost (minimal, but nice)</p>
<p>2. You get Vista Ultimate; the others offer Vista Home or Vista Premium.</p>
<p>3. In the event of warranty issues, DFJ pays for shipping both ways; all the other vendors require you to pay 1-way-shipping to Japan to return the unit.</p>
<p>If not for the eBay coupons and cash back, I most likely would have ordered from DFJ.</p>
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		<title>By: chippy</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/07/kohijnsha-sc3-review-over-at-pocketables-looks-like-weve-got-another-good-umpc-choice-even-vista-works#comment-5542</link>
		<dc:creator>chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, its taking a long time. It came by standard EMS. Its cleared German customs now so am expecting it on Monday. Better get the cash ready to pay the tax!

Note that DFJ give you free delivery. If days are important then you need to consider options. Maybe they have a fast service.

Not sure how much Jenn paid for delivery.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, its taking a long time. It came by standard EMS. Its cleared German customs now so am expecting it on Monday. Better get the cash ready to pay the tax!</p>
<p>Note that DFJ give you free delivery. If days are important then you need to consider options. Maybe they have a fast service.</p>
<p>Not sure how much Jenn paid for delivery.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: chippy</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/07/kohijnsha-sc3-review-over-at-pocketables-looks-like-weve-got-another-good-umpc-choice-even-vista-works#comment-5541</link>
		<dc:creator>chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As others pointed out, this has a small battery. The u810 with the small battery gives worse battery life, or to put it another way, if you put the eee 901 battery on the sc3, you would get between 5 and 7 hours active life.
Kohji sell a 4 cell battery which isnt too bog and will give you up to 6 hours life.
Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As others pointed out, this has a small battery. The u810 with the small battery gives worse battery life, or to put it another way, if you put the eee 901 battery on the sc3, you would get between 5 and 7 hours active life.<br />
Kohji sell a 4 cell battery which isnt too bog and will give you up to 6 hours life.<br />
Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/07/kohijnsha-sc3-review-over-at-pocketables-looks-like-weve-got-another-good-umpc-choice-even-vista-works#comment-5540</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Jenn and I have been having a private race to see who was first to get the SC3."

Still no SC3?! Not much of a race - you weren't kidding when you said that yours was being delivered by carrier pigeon...


Not very good publicity for DFJ - what were they thinking?

I think I'll get mine from Conics.net - at least that way it'll arrive before it becomes obsolete :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jenn and I have been having a private race to see who was first to get the SC3.&#8221;</p>
<p>Still no SC3?! Not much of a race - you weren&#8217;t kidding when you said that yours was being delivered by carrier pigeon&#8230;</p>
<p>Not very good publicity for DFJ - what were they thinking?</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll get mine from Conics.net - at least that way it&#8217;ll arrive before it becomes obsolete <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: heavyharmonies</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/07/kohijnsha-sc3-review-over-at-pocketables-looks-like-weve-got-another-good-umpc-choice-even-vista-works#comment-5519</link>
		<dc:creator>heavyharmonies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure yet. I usually comparison shop between:

Amazon.com
Crucial.com
Memorysuppliers.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure yet. I usually comparison shop between:</p>
<p>Amazon.com<br />
Crucial.com<br />
Memorysuppliers.com</p>
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		<title>By: Devin</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/07/kohijnsha-sc3-review-over-at-pocketables-looks-like-weve-got-another-good-umpc-choice-even-vista-works#comment-5516</link>
		<dc:creator>Devin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just did the same as heavyharmonies sans the 10% EBay coupon, which didn't work for my account.  Fingers crossed that this Microsoft cash back thing works.  

heavyharmonies - where are you going to pick up the extra RAM from?

Talk about impulse.

-Devin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just did the same as heavyharmonies sans the 10% EBay coupon, which didn&#8217;t work for my account.  Fingers crossed that this Microsoft cash back thing works.  </p>
<p>heavyharmonies - where are you going to pick up the extra RAM from?</p>
<p>Talk about impulse.</p>
<p>-Devin</p>
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		<title>By: heavyharmonies</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/07/kohijnsha-sc3-review-over-at-pocketables-looks-like-weve-got-another-good-umpc-choice-even-vista-works#comment-5496</link>
		<dc:creator>heavyharmonies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the capacity of the new SC3 battery lower than that of the SA, SH, and SR series (2200 mAH rather than 2600 mAH)?

If it's that much of a concern, get the extended battery. It's not like a 4400 mAH battery is going to be gargantuan.

Frankly, as notebooks/subnotebooks go, 2.5 hours real world on a 2200 mAH battery seems quite decent to me.

I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a non-GPS model last night (really have no use for GPS or bluetooth at this point in time). What prompted me to do so was the 10% eBay coupon and the 25% off Microsoft Live cash back promotion (search SlickDeals or FatWallet for info).

$939 + $69 shipping = $1008.00

-$93.90 (10% coupon)

-$234.75 Cash Back

= $679.35 delivered... which is a price I can live with.

I'm going to see how it performs with 1GB and get a baseline for heat output, and then drop in my own 2GB stick for $40-50 and see how the heat compares from there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but isn&#8217;t the capacity of the new SC3 battery lower than that of the SA, SH, and SR series (2200 mAH rather than 2600 mAH)?</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s that much of a concern, get the extended battery. It&#8217;s not like a 4400 mAH battery is going to be gargantuan.</p>
<p>Frankly, as notebooks/subnotebooks go, 2.5 hours real world on a 2200 mAH battery seems quite decent to me.</p>
<p>I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a non-GPS model last night (really have no use for GPS or bluetooth at this point in time). What prompted me to do so was the 10% eBay coupon and the 25% off Microsoft Live cash back promotion (search SlickDeals or FatWallet for info).</p>
<p>$939 + $69 shipping = $1008.00</p>
<p>-$93.90 (10% coupon)</p>
<p>-$234.75 Cash Back</p>
<p>= $679.35 delivered&#8230; which is a price I can live with.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to see how it performs with 1GB and get a baseline for heat output, and then drop in my own 2GB stick for $40-50 and see how the heat compares from there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ctitanic</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/07/kohijnsha-sc3-review-over-at-pocketables-looks-like-weve-got-another-good-umpc-choice-even-vista-works#comment-5494</link>
		<dc:creator>Ctitanic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, the performance of the U810 is about 60% of the one you get in this one.

TIP recognized "free" instead of "the".
 Sorry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, the performance of the U810 is about 60% of the one you get in this one.</p>
<p>TIP recognized &#8220;free&#8221; instead of &#8220;the&#8221;.<br />
 Sorry</p>
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		<title>By: Ctitanic</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/07/kohijnsha-sc3-review-over-at-pocketables-looks-like-weve-got-another-good-umpc-choice-even-vista-works#comment-5493</link>
		<dc:creator>Ctitanic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, the performance of the U810 is about 60% of free one you get in this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, the performance of the U810 is about 60% of free one you get in this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/07/kohijnsha-sc3-review-over-at-pocketables-looks-like-weve-got-another-good-umpc-choice-even-vista-works#comment-5488</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it was only the infamous sucky battery-life of Kohijnsha's earlier SA model that prevented many of us purchasing that one. Now they release what appears to be an almost perfect UMPC...with 2.5 HOURS!? why bother. 

Why is Fujitsu able to squeeze almost 5 hours out of the LifeBook U810? Asus EEE PCs also have respectable battery-life.

Can anyone explain why Kohijnsha seem to get everything right, yet seem to fail with battery life!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it was only the infamous sucky battery-life of Kohijnsha&#8217;s earlier SA model that prevented many of us purchasing that one. Now they release what appears to be an almost perfect UMPC&#8230;with 2.5 HOURS!? why bother. </p>
<p>Why is Fujitsu able to squeeze almost 5 hours out of the LifeBook U810? Asus EEE PCs also have respectable battery-life.</p>
<p>Can anyone explain why Kohijnsha seem to get everything right, yet seem to fail with battery life!?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/07/kohijnsha-sc3-review-over-at-pocketables-looks-like-weve-got-another-good-umpc-choice-even-vista-works#comment-5487</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Jenn's review, she said she got 2.5 hour battery life with it. What's that useful for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Jenn&#8217;s review, she said she got 2.5 hour battery life with it. What&#8217;s that useful for?</p>
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		<title>By: chippy</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/07/kohijnsha-sc3-review-over-at-pocketables-looks-like-weve-got-another-good-umpc-choice-even-vista-works#comment-5421</link>
		<dc:creator>chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you build a car to go a certain speed, it will always go faster when the wind is behind it ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you build a car to go a certain speed, it will always go faster when the wind is behind it <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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