Comments on: Dell’s E-Slim 12" Netbook Crosses over to the danger zone. http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/ portable pc, mobile computer, pocket pc and handheld computing Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:29:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dell pulls back from the 12″ Danger Zone. | UMPCPortal - Ultra Mobile Personal Computing http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-24777 Dell pulls back from the 12″ Danger Zone. | UMPCPortal - Ultra Mobile Personal Computing Sun, 09 Aug 2009 11:06:02 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-24777 [...] couple of interesting points come up from this Techcrunch article. Its something I wrote about when the Dell 12 first came out. Dell are now discontinuing the Mini [...]

[...] couple of interesting points come up from this Techcrunch article. Its something I wrote about when the Dell 12 first came out. Dell are now discontinuing the Mini [...]

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]]> By: 13.4″ ‘netbook.’ No details here! | UMPCPortal - The Mobile Internet and Computing Reference Site http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-15948 13.4″ ‘netbook.’ No details here! | UMPCPortal - The Mobile Internet and Computing Reference Site Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:44:21 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-15948 [...] that was the keyword of the moment. Now it’s happening a lot more with netbooks. We’ve seen it happen before but its always good to discuss it. There’s a good discussion over on JKK’s post. Join [...]

[...] that was the keyword of the moment. Now it’s happening a lot more with netbooks. We’ve seen it happen before but its always good to discuss it. There’s a good discussion over on JKK’s post. Join [...]

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]]> By: 1.8Ghz Netbooks could tip the sales. | UMPCPortal - The Mobile Internet and Computing Reference Site http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-14470 1.8Ghz Netbooks could tip the sales. | UMPCPortal - The Mobile Internet and Computing Reference Site Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:40:03 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-14470 [...] aren’t the first netbook devices we’ve heard about that will use this platform as the Dell Mini 12 is already out there using it but it could be that we see a lot more of these as it offers an [...]

[...] aren’t the first netbook devices we’ve heard about that will use this platform as the Dell Mini 12 is already out there using it but it could be that we see a lot more of these as it offers an [...]

]]> By: ScaleGamer » Blog Archive » Silverthorne, Poulsbo ready for XP primetime? http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-13622 ScaleGamer » Blog Archive » Silverthorne, Poulsbo ready for XP primetime? Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:29:03 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-13622 [...] up on the previous story I did about the 12" Dell Mini, it looks like it really is going to [...]

[...] up on the previous story I did about the 12" Dell Mini, it looks like it really is going to [...]

]]> By: Richard http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-11685 Richard Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:41:37 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-11685 <b>Dell fails on delivery on lattitudes</b> I was due to receive my new E4200 tomorrow 23/10 Only today I get an automated email reporting that it will be another month before delivery due to excess demand. I wonder if this delay will spread across the board to other dells direct sales? Seems more likely there are production/technical problems to me. I ordered this machine on the 18th sept! Dell fails on delivery on lattitudes
I was due to receive my new E4200 tomorrow 23/10 Only today I get an automated email reporting that it will be another month before delivery due to excess demand. I wonder if this delay will spread across the board to other dells direct sales? Seems more likely there are production/technical problems to me. I ordered this machine on the 18th sept!

]]> By: Silverthorne, Poulsbo ready for XP primetime? | UMPCPortal - The Ultra Mobile Computing reference site http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-11313 Silverthorne, Poulsbo ready for XP primetime? | UMPCPortal - The Ultra Mobile Computing reference site Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:55:00 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-11313 [...] up on the previous story I did about the 12" Dell Mini, it looks like it really is going to [...]

[...] up on the previous story I did about the 12" Dell Mini, it looks like it really is going to [...]

]]> By: mikepegg http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-10249 mikepegg Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:11:59 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-10249 12" version link is http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.204-8424.aspx 12″ version link is http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.204-8424.aspx

]]> By: Dell E-Slim: quando un Netbook è sul “filo del rasoio” | Netbook Italia http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-10210 Dell E-Slim: quando un Netbook è sul “filo del rasoio” | Netbook Italia Sat, 27 Sep 2008 06:47:39 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-10210 [...] Fonte: UMPCPortal [...]

[...] Fonte: UMPCPortal [...]

]]> By: Robert http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-10116 Robert Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:33:14 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-10116 Had a look on the Tesco's website and couldn't find the model mentioned here, but there is a Dell Inspiron N270 with an 8.9" screen, 8Gb SSD running Linux due to be available from 6th October for £249 (http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.204-8967.aspx) Had a look on the Tesco’s website and couldn’t find the model mentioned here, but there is a Dell Inspiron N270 with an 8.9″ screen, 8Gb SSD running Linux due to be available from 6th October for £249
(http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.204-8967.aspx)

]]> By: ProDigit http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-10101 ProDigit Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:12:33 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-10101 I think maybe there will be a dip in price, only later to increase. UMPC's like that are cheaper,environment friendlier, and probably suit the needs of the consumer a lot more than Laptops do. The fact is,those that will need ultra power devices, or company representatives,probably still will buy higher end (mini-)notebooks, and I believe there'll still be a budget market (just like there's the budget/performance market in videocards and CPU's). I think there'll always be UMPC's manufactured (at least for the coming 10 years),even if many brands will fall away, ending with 2 to maybe 5 main mini-laptop manufacturer brands. Like pc's there are those who want to pay for the latest,most flashy looking device; and those that just want the cheapest. I think both are to be seen as separate markets to be. And as far as I've seen, I don't really find the mini-laptop market as attractive as before anymore.. When OLPC came out with the XO for almost $100,and Asus with the EeePc for 299, those where great prices for laptops. Already a year prices have skyrocketed, and a mini notebook now costs on average above $500. For there was a time I'd said: I'd prefer to go with a $500 Laptop than a $500 UMPC. But lately UMPC's have done something about their battery life, to last longer than $500 laptops. Anyways, the tables have already turned,and the majority of people if ever they need to buy a new laptop will choose for a mini-netbook. Depending on how this coming 12" is going to look like,some people might go for a full feat. 15" cheap laptop, while others might prefer smaller form factor. I think the majority of people prefer a 10" device over a 12 or 13" device. And those who like things big,usually prefer 15 or 17". The 12 and 13" market, only makes up for a very small share of the market. Granted those laptops are (where)the most expensive. But I think it mainly had to do because of lack of supply of customized products like 12" LCD screens,or smallfactor battery... etc.. I think with the emerging market of the UMPC, smaller components where being mass-produced, easier to be gotten, and thus the price should have gone down already... I think the 12" laptops probably will go down from $2000 to $1500, not because of the lowering demands, but because of the greater availability (and lower price) of the parts. Anyway,that's my thought about the topic. I think maybe there will be a dip in price, only later to increase.
UMPC’s like that are cheaper,environment friendlier, and probably suit the needs of the consumer a lot more than Laptops do.

The fact is,those that will need ultra power devices, or company representatives,probably still will buy higher end (mini-)notebooks, and I believe there’ll still be a budget market (just like there’s the budget/performance market in videocards and CPU’s).

I think there’ll always be UMPC’s manufactured (at least for the coming 10 years),even if many brands will fall away, ending with 2 to maybe 5 main mini-laptop manufacturer brands.

Like pc’s there are those who want to pay for the latest,most flashy looking device; and those that just want the cheapest. I think both are to be seen as separate markets to be.
And as far as I’ve seen, I don’t really find the mini-laptop market as attractive as before anymore..
When OLPC came out with the XO for almost $100,and Asus with the EeePc for 299, those where great prices for laptops.
Already a year prices have skyrocketed, and a mini notebook now costs on average above $500.

For there was a time I’d said: I’d prefer to go with a $500 Laptop than a $500 UMPC. But lately UMPC’s have done something about their battery life, to last longer than $500 laptops.

Anyways, the tables have already turned,and the majority of people if ever they need to buy a new laptop will choose for a mini-netbook.

Depending on how this coming 12″ is going to look like,some people might go for a full feat. 15″ cheap laptop, while others might prefer smaller form factor.

I think the majority of people prefer a 10″ device over a 12 or 13″ device.
And those who like things big,usually prefer 15 or 17″.

The 12 and 13″ market, only makes up for a very small share of the market. Granted those laptops are (where)the most expensive.
But I think it mainly had to do because of lack of supply of customized products like 12″ LCD screens,or smallfactor battery… etc..

I think with the emerging market of the UMPC, smaller components where being mass-produced, easier to be gotten, and thus the price should have gone down already…

I think the 12″ laptops probably will go down from $2000 to $1500, not because of the lowering demands, but because of the greater availability (and lower price) of the parts.

Anyway,that’s my thought about the topic.

]]> By: Vakeros http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-10087 Vakeros Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:42:25 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-10087 I don't see the R & D going where the money is being made. Just take graphics chips for example. They bring out new high specs for gamers and then that filters down to everyone else. Vista and other bloatware was being lazy using the extra capability without adding much to what was happening. Intel (who do spend a lot in R&D) saw a new way to get there corner of the market and have gone for it. I think this means companies will be forced to spend more in R&D and design, otherwise they will be left behind. We are entering a new time of chaos in the market and it is exciting and some will catch the crest and surf on down and others will be lost. Come 5 years time there will be a whole new game in town, and its already started :-) I don’t see the R & D going where the money is being made. Just take graphics chips for example. They bring out new high specs for gamers and then that filters down to everyone else. Vista and other bloatware was being lazy using the extra capability without adding much to what was happening.
Intel (who do spend a lot in R&D) saw a new way to get there corner of the market and have gone for it. I think this means companies will be forced to spend more in R&D and design, otherwise they will be left behind. We are entering a new time of chaos in the market and it is exciting and some will catch the crest and surf on down and others will be lost. Come 5 years time there will be a whole new game in town, and its already started :-)

]]> By: Nick http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-10086 Nick Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:25:23 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-10086 This looks like the machine I have been waiting for... How much longer will I be waiting? I could never understand why 12" is a premium category! This looks like the machine I have been waiting for…

How much longer will I be waiting?

I could never understand why 12″ is a premium category!

]]> By: chippy http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-10085 chippy Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:25:00 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dells-e-slim-12-netbook-crosses-over-to-the-danger-zone/#comment-10085 Its the pricing problem and resulting lack of R&D in both netbook and laptop markets that worries me most. Not the naming. Dell is moving into laptop land with some really distruptive marketing here. Its the pricing problem and resulting lack of R&D in both netbook and laptop markets that worries me most. Not the naming. Dell is moving into laptop land with some really distruptive marketing here.

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