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		<title>By: leopard gecko feed</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dual-core-atom-cpus-in-netbooks-dont-count-on-it/#comment-36339</link>
		<dc:creator>leopard gecko feed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.leopardgeckosresource.com" rel="nofollow">Breed leopard geckos</a> can give so a lotcolor and selection to your pet collection. You will discover them more on-line and examine how it&#8217;s done. Adding a different color to their genes may be fun for breeders. You need to make sure that they are managing as well throughout  breeding.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAHA nice prediction mate!</description>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend got an asus netbook with a dual core atom. Guess what? It screems and its very stable. Just an FYI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend got an asus netbook with a dual core atom. Guess what? It screems and its very stable. Just an FYI.</p>
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		<title>By: Maury</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intel... Microsoft... They are like Penguin &amp; Joker... both villiains... it&#039;s a dam recession and they still monopolizing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intel&#8230; Microsoft&#8230; They are like Penguin &amp; Joker&#8230; both villiains&#8230; it&#8217;s a dam recession and they still monopolizing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jack MeHoff</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dual-core-atom-cpus-in-netbooks-dont-count-on-it/#comment-15304</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack MeHoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.slashgear.com/gigabyte-planning-10-inch-m912-netbook-with-atom-330-dual-core-0713544/

I really hate commentary form idiots! Most folks doing their own reasearch can find out that you are totally full of feces. Wise up before your next write-up. Try to enlighten yourself before you spew crap&#039;ola</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.slashgear.com/gigabyte-planning-10-inch-m912-netbook-with-atom-330-dual-core-0713544/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slashgear.com/gigabyte-planning-10-inch-m912-netbook-with-atom-330-dual-core-0713544/</a></p>
<p>I really hate commentary form idiots! Most folks doing their own reasearch can find out that you are totally full of feces. Wise up before your next write-up. Try to enlighten yourself before you spew crap&#8217;ola</p>
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		<title>By: [UMPC Portal] Dual Core Atom CPUs in netbooks? don’t count on it - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/09/dual-core-atom-cpus-in-netbooks-dont-count-on-it/#comment-10081</link>
		<dc:creator>[UMPC Portal] Dual Core Atom CPUs in netbooks? don’t count on it - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] need to wait for the next round of Atom CPUs in order to see anything new for the netbook wave.    Source  Not sure just how credible this site really is but if theres any truth to this, I guess I can just [...]</description>
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<p>[...] need to wait for the next round of Atom CPUs in order to see anything new for the netbook wave.    Source  Not sure just how credible this site really is but if theres any truth to this, I guess I can just [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ProDigit</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProDigit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 8 Watts TDP is under full load,will mostly not be used,since most of the time a mini-notebook is in idle mode,or used only little (browsing,listening to MP3, reading...).
Unless you go gaming with it.

Dual core Atom looks very promising in desktops like the EEE-BOX.

Bad news for some: Dualcore Atom systems will probably NOT ship with XP, due to the license agreement between MS and the manufacturers (unless manufacturers want to pay more for their OS).

This alone shows that chances are small 2Core Atoms will be manufactured on mini notebooks, unless if they come with &#039;Vista&#039; (read:&quot;Battery&amp;Resource Hog!) or windows 7.

For the desktop I hope they will come with Dual DDR2 RAM slots (pref. sodimm),and drivers for XP.
XP will fly, I tell you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 8 Watts TDP is under full load,will mostly not be used,since most of the time a mini-notebook is in idle mode,or used only little (browsing,listening to MP3, reading&#8230;).<br />
Unless you go gaming with it.</p>
<p>Dual core Atom looks very promising in desktops like the EEE-BOX.</p>
<p>Bad news for some: Dualcore Atom systems will probably NOT ship with XP, due to the license agreement between MS and the manufacturers (unless manufacturers want to pay more for their OS).</p>
<p>This alone shows that chances are small 2Core Atoms will be manufactured on mini notebooks, unless if they come with &#8216;Vista&#8217; (read:&#8221;Battery&amp;Resource Hog!) or windows 7.</p>
<p>For the desktop I hope they will come with Dual DDR2 RAM slots (pref. sodimm),and drivers for XP.<br />
XP will fly, I tell you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: roverw</title>
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		<dc:creator>roverw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting why only the processor power is mentioned - the chipset itself takes quite much more power and I guess it will not be changed greatly... Although without doubt most of us would like to see integrated low power CPU+chipset!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting why only the processor power is mentioned &#8211; the chipset itself takes quite much more power and I guess it will not be changed greatly&#8230; Although without doubt most of us would like to see integrated low power CPU+chipset!</p>
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		<title>By: Vakeros</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vakeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The HTC Touch HD, Dream/G1, Sony Xperia and some others are using Qualcomm&#039;s dual-core processors. 1 is ARM9 the other is ARM11. The difference being ARM9 for phone functions and ARM11 for applications and multimedia etc.
Maybe the Shift 2 could have one of these SoCs and another ULV chip for full blown OS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The HTC Touch HD, Dream/G1, Sony Xperia and some others are using Qualcomm&#8217;s dual-core processors. 1 is ARM9 the other is ARM11. The difference being ARM9 for phone functions and ARM11 for applications and multimedia etc.<br />
Maybe the Shift 2 could have one of these SoCs and another ULV chip for full blown OS.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like others have said, this is probably for business reasons ... If the low-cost Atom netbooks are as powerful as full-fledged notebooks, Intel might end up hurting their bottom line by not selling as many more costly Core 2 chips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like others have said, this is probably for business reasons &#8230; If the low-cost Atom netbooks are as powerful as full-fledged notebooks, Intel might end up hurting their bottom line by not selling as many more costly Core 2 chips.</p>
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		<title>By: chippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree and its one of the reasons I will probably not buy an Everun Note but possibly a Q1 HSDPA which is less powerfull but better tailored to my needs. Still fast enough for internet though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree and its one of the reasons I will probably not buy an Everun Note but possibly a Q1 HSDPA which is less powerfull but better tailored to my needs. Still fast enough for internet though!</p>
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		<title>By: chippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.
Ben wrote the article but i guess you mean me?

The recall of the Everun was a local recall for Korea and doesn&#039;t affect final release versions being shipped out. The issues were due to early engineering faults. e.g. some cpus were thinner and the heatsink didnt make the correct contact! 

8w tdp is not an issue for a well designed netbook or even a umpc as weve seen it in a number of devices already. For me it was clear that Intel would target the device away from netbooks. They and their partners will probably do everything they can to avoid netbooks becoming any more powerful!

Although Intel and partners might try and prevent anything more powerful appearing in a netbook, i think it wil happen eventually as independants start to put Nanos and Turions in. 
It is going to seriously change the notebook market and cause serious problems as consumers stop buying bigger notebooks in the next 2 years.
What Asus hav started was a brave move but i think its going to cause a lot of oems some serious problem on the bottom line. 
It will affect the MID, UMPC and pro laptop market too as prices have to be dropped meanining less money for r&amp;d, quality components and engineering.

If Samsung cancel their UMPC or MID plans having now entered the netbook market, It wil be a sad sign that we&#039;ve entered an era of safe, boring, mass market products. As a fan of specialised products I will be very sad to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.<br />
Ben wrote the article but i guess you mean me?</p>
<p>The recall of the Everun was a local recall for Korea and doesn&#8217;t affect final release versions being shipped out. The issues were due to early engineering faults. e.g. some cpus were thinner and the heatsink didnt make the correct contact! </p>
<p>8w tdp is not an issue for a well designed netbook or even a umpc as weve seen it in a number of devices already. For me it was clear that Intel would target the device away from netbooks. They and their partners will probably do everything they can to avoid netbooks becoming any more powerful!</p>
<p>Although Intel and partners might try and prevent anything more powerful appearing in a netbook, i think it wil happen eventually as independants start to put Nanos and Turions in.<br />
It is going to seriously change the notebook market and cause serious problems as consumers stop buying bigger notebooks in the next 2 years.<br />
What Asus hav started was a brave move but i think its going to cause a lot of oems some serious problem on the bottom line.<br />
It will affect the MID, UMPC and pro laptop market too as prices have to be dropped meanining less money for r&#038;d, quality components and engineering.</p>
<p>If Samsung cancel their UMPC or MID plans having now entered the netbook market, It wil be a sad sign that we&#8217;ve entered an era of safe, boring, mass market products. As a fan of specialised products I will be very sad to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, as long as the Internet speed, the CPU is not a big problem!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, as long as the Internet speed, the CPU is not a big problem!</p>
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		<title>By: jkkmobile</title>
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		<dc:creator>jkkmobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TeraTraxmore, 

I get tons of emails from people asking if the should wait another month or so to get &quot;dual core Dell Mini&quot; etc. so my post was more targeted in current situation, not to whats happening next year(s).

&quot;In the works&quot; is far from &quot;available soon&quot;..

As you seem to know about mobile dc Atom, it would be nice if you could share the info and maybe even post a link...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TeraTraxmore, </p>
<p>I get tons of emails from people asking if the should wait another month or so to get &#8220;dual core Dell Mini&#8221; etc. so my post was more targeted in current situation, not to whats happening next year(s).</p>
<p>&#8220;In the works&#8221; is far from &#8220;available soon&#8221;..</p>
<p>As you seem to know about mobile dc Atom, it would be nice if you could share the info and maybe even post a link&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bpm</title>
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		<dc:creator>bpm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 05:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>8 watts is not out of the ballpark - apparently that&#039;s the TDP of the C7 used in the HP 2133. 
&quot;According to the official specsheet from HP regarding the mini-note, the 1.6GHz ULV has a TDP of 8 watts. http://tinyurl.com/65mlr7&quot;

from http://www.hp2133guide.com/new-open-book-subnotebook-reference-design-from-via/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8 watts is not out of the ballpark &#8211; apparently that&#8217;s the TDP of the C7 used in the HP 2133.<br />
&#8220;According to the official specsheet from HP regarding the mini-note, the 1.6GHz ULV has a TDP of 8 watts. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/65mlr7" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/65mlr7</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>from <a href="http://www.hp2133guide.com/new-open-book-subnotebook-reference-design-from-via/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hp2133guide.com/new-open-book-subnotebook-reference-design-from-via/</a></p>
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