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	<title>Comments on: Archos 5 browser speed shows promise.</title>
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		<title>By: Radford</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/archos-5-browser-speed-shows-promise/#comment-19114</link>
		<dc:creator>Radford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone actually done this and can provide some input?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone actually done this and can provide some input?</p>
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		<title>By: myinternetspeed.org</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/archos-5-browser-speed-shows-promise/#comment-15321</link>
		<dc:creator>myinternetspeed.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, cool web sites.For speed up your pc you can use a free tool from http://myinternetspeed.org/free-utilities/free-utility-program/. It allows you to clean system junk files, invalid registry entries and Internet traces. You can also manage and delete browser add-ons, analyze disk space usage and find duplicate files, view and manage installed shell extensions, encrypt your files from unauthorized access and use, split large files into smaller manageable files and then rejoin them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, cool web sites.For speed up your pc you can use a free tool from <a href="http://myinternetspeed.org/free-utilities/free-utility-program/" rel="nofollow">http://myinternetspeed.org/free-utilities/free-utility-program/</a>. It allows you to clean system junk files, invalid registry entries and Internet traces. You can also manage and delete browser add-ons, analyze disk space usage and find duplicate files, view and manage installed shell extensions, encrypt your files from unauthorized access and use, split large files into smaller manageable files and then rejoin them.</p>
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		<title>By: Pocket Internet Explorer 6. Another Browser with no Hardware! &#124; UMPCPortal - The Ultra Mobile Computing reference site</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/archos-5-browser-speed-shows-promise/#comment-13598</link>
		<dc:creator>Pocket Internet Explorer 6. Another Browser with no Hardware! &#124; UMPCPortal - The Ultra Mobile Computing reference site</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WM6, 5-hour online battery life, running on a a Cortex A8 core and we can talk. The Archos 5 does a fairly speedy job. The Open Pandora device too so we know there&#8217;s no hardware limitations. It&#8217;s just a [...]</description>
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<p>[...] WM6, 5-hour online battery life, running on a a Cortex A8 core and we can talk. The Archos 5 does a fairly speedy job. The Open Pandora device too so we know there&#8217;s no hardware limitations. It&#8217;s just a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#34;The smartphone isnt that smart&#8230;.They use ARM&#34; &#124; UMPCPortal - The Ultra Mobile Computing reference site</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/archos-5-browser-speed-shows-promise/#comment-11691</link>
		<dc:creator>&#34;The smartphone isnt that smart&#8230;.They use ARM&#34; &#124; UMPCPortal - The Ultra Mobile Computing reference site</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The latest ARM-based devices have almost closed the 9-second penalty I demonstrated a year ago. See this article about the Archos 5.     Posted in mid [...]</description>
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<p>[...] The latest ARM-based devices have almost closed the 9-second penalty I demonstrated a year ago. See this article about the Archos 5.     Posted in mid [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roc</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/archos-5-browser-speed-shows-promise/#comment-11298</link>
		<dc:creator>Roc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe,wo havea bbs to diccuss with umpc... but it&#039;s a Chinese version..  it&#039;s www.umpcfans.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe,wo havea bbs to diccuss with umpc&#8230; but it&#8217;s a Chinese version..  it&#8217;s <a href="http://www.umpcfans.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.umpcfans.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chippy</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/archos-5-browser-speed-shows-promise/#comment-11078</link>
		<dc:creator>Chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My estimate is that with the Atom at 800mhz (no hyperthreading, 433 FSB) its not much more powerful than the Cortex A8. My feeling (from hands on and research) is that you might see 10-20% faster page load times with Atom. Join me a JKKMobile tonight and we&#039;ll try and go through the same tests as Jenn.

S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My estimate is that with the Atom at 800mhz (no hyperthreading, 433 FSB) its not much more powerful than the Cortex A8. My feeling (from hands on and research) is that you might see 10-20% faster page load times with Atom. Join me a JKKMobile tonight and we&#8217;ll try and go through the same tests as Jenn.</p>
<p>S.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/archos-5-browser-speed-shows-promise/#comment-11073</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chippy, do you know how the ARM Cortex compares to the Intel Atom in terms of performance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chippy, do you know how the ARM Cortex compares to the Intel Atom in terms of performance?</p>
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		<title>By: Chippy</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/archos-5-browser-speed-shows-promise/#comment-11061</link>
		<dc:creator>Chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. It&#039;s been on the to-do list for a while. I&#039;ll get it sorted out ASAP.
S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. It&#8217;s been on the to-do list for a while. I&#8217;ll get it sorted out ASAP.<br />
S</p>
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		<title>By: squirrel</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/archos-5-browser-speed-shows-promise/#comment-11043</link>
		<dc:creator>squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chippy, can you put Archos 5 into product database?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chippy, can you put Archos 5 into product database?</p>
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		<title>By: focus</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/archos-5-browser-speed-shows-promise/#comment-11037</link>
		<dc:creator>focus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is only the first cortex and not even an umpc like
device,only an better pmp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is only the first cortex and not even an umpc like<br />
device,only an better pmp.</p>
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		<title>By: turn.self.off</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/archos-5-browser-speed-shows-promise/#comment-11031</link>
		<dc:creator>turn.self.off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh and when it comes to swiss army gadget vs toolbox of devices, i think it comes down to usage and economy.

for someone thats very into photography, anything but a DSLR will not do.

but for someone that just wants to snap a photo at some party or other gathering without having to pack a lot of gear, and can get a device that can also make calls and play music or video to kill some spare time, then they will go for that. even more so if it costs no more then the dedicated DSLR.

it depends on what people see as important.

and then there is the gadget geeks, like myself, that dont mind carrying around multiple devices, even if they do much the same.

but then im the kind of person that would love to work configuring networks all day ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and when it comes to swiss army gadget vs toolbox of devices, i think it comes down to usage and economy.</p>
<p>for someone thats very into photography, anything but a DSLR will not do.</p>
<p>but for someone that just wants to snap a photo at some party or other gathering without having to pack a lot of gear, and can get a device that can also make calls and play music or video to kill some spare time, then they will go for that. even more so if it costs no more then the dedicated DSLR.</p>
<p>it depends on what people see as important.</p>
<p>and then there is the gadget geeks, like myself, that dont mind carrying around multiple devices, even if they do much the same.</p>
<p>but then im the kind of person that would love to work configuring networks all day <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: turn.self.off</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/archos-5-browser-speed-shows-promise/#comment-11030</link>
		<dc:creator>turn.self.off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe they are crazy, but some are running debian in a chroot on the N8x0...

one person even did a presentation in berlin using that setup and the openoffice presentation software...

http://trac.tspre.org/projects/deblet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe they are crazy, but some are running debian in a chroot on the N8x0&#8230;</p>
<p>one person even did a presentation in berlin using that setup and the openoffice presentation software&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://trac.tspre.org/projects/deblet" rel="nofollow">http://trac.tspre.org/projects/deblet</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chippy</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/archos-5-browser-speed-shows-promise/#comment-11027</link>
		<dc:creator>Chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. That was a long reply. Sorry ;-)
S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. That was a long reply. Sorry <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
S</p>
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		<title>By: Chippy</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/archos-5-browser-speed-shows-promise/#comment-11026</link>
		<dc:creator>Chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For smartphones and other ARM-based devices, the CPU is a major issue. You just can not hope to run complex applications like browsers on ARM11 or ARM9 so for me, this is a breakthrough.

As for the OS, it would indeed be nice to have an OS that ran desktop and phone apps. I&#039;ve seen demos of virutal machines running on the EB MID that achieve this though so obviously people are thinking about it. WM7 should be a good step forward for mobile fans too. Android on X86 with Open Office and Skype is another one to think about too.

Why not carry a smartphone and MID though? If you want browsing and video on a mobile device, it&#039;s never going to work well on a smartphone purely because of the size limitations. 3&quot; screens will never work comfortably for internet, navigation and video. I counter your argument that &#039;it is ridiculous to expect people to carry a smartphone AND a MID&#039; by saying &#039;its absolutely normal for manufacturers to expect people to buy separate devices for separate functions.&#039; Yes, some people are looking for device consolidation but that&#039;s not the mass market who are quite happy to buy seperate Mp3 player, feature phone, smartphone, handheld gaming machine, navigation device, car audio etc etc. I know a lot of people here that would like to converge, but that&#039;s not what happens in the real world of staggered purchases due to new technologies and market(ing) forces.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For smartphones and other ARM-based devices, the CPU is a major issue. You just can not hope to run complex applications like browsers on ARM11 or ARM9 so for me, this is a breakthrough.</p>
<p>As for the OS, it would indeed be nice to have an OS that ran desktop and phone apps. I&#8217;ve seen demos of virutal machines running on the EB MID that achieve this though so obviously people are thinking about it. WM7 should be a good step forward for mobile fans too. Android on X86 with Open Office and Skype is another one to think about too.</p>
<p>Why not carry a smartphone and MID though? If you want browsing and video on a mobile device, it&#8217;s never going to work well on a smartphone purely because of the size limitations. 3&#8243; screens will never work comfortably for internet, navigation and video. I counter your argument that &#8216;it is ridiculous to expect people to carry a smartphone AND a MID&#8217; by saying &#8216;its absolutely normal for manufacturers to expect people to buy separate devices for separate functions.&#8217; Yes, some people are looking for device consolidation but that&#8217;s not the mass market who are quite happy to buy seperate Mp3 player, feature phone, smartphone, handheld gaming machine, navigation device, car audio etc etc. I know a lot of people here that would like to converge, but that&#8217;s not what happens in the real world of staggered purchases due to new technologies and market(ing) forces.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Fixup</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/archos-5-browser-speed-shows-promise/#comment-11023</link>
		<dc:creator>Fixup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The processor is not the issue. What needed is an OS that does both phone and Windows apps. This is why all MIDs do not include a phone yet; not they are too big but lack of such an OS. The Linux that runs on this ARM is no exception. It does not matter how fast the browser is; it is ridiculous to expect people to carry a smartphone AND a MID.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The processor is not the issue. What needed is an OS that does both phone and Windows apps. This is why all MIDs do not include a phone yet; not they are too big but lack of such an OS. The Linux that runs on this ARM is no exception. It does not matter how fast the browser is; it is ridiculous to expect people to carry a smartphone AND a MID.</p>
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