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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/netbooks-price-today-problems-tomorrow#comment-14434</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today you can find a relly god laptop for small price..</description>
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		<title>By: R. Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/netbooks-price-today-problems-tomorrow#comment-13043</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't mean to be too in your face, but I'm not sure I agree with this. Anyhow, thanks for sharing and I think I'll come to this blog more often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mean to be too in your face, but I&#8217;m not sure I agree with this. Anyhow, thanks for sharing and I think I&#8217;ll come to this blog more often.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessie</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/netbooks-price-today-problems-tomorrow#comment-12489</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;portable video &#38; music player 8gb...&lt;/strong&gt;

This is similar to comment spam but avoids some of the safeguards designed to stop the latter practice. This enables authors to keep...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>portable video &amp; music player 8gb&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>This is similar to comment spam but avoids some of the safeguards designed to stop the latter practice. This enables authors to keep&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: watch tv on pc</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/netbooks-price-today-problems-tomorrow#comment-12408</link>
		<dc:creator>watch tv on pc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;satellite tv &#38; internet package...&lt;/strong&gt;

I have been searching for this information. Thanks!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>satellite tv &amp; internet package&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I have been searching for this information. Thanks!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: buyer first home mobile time</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/netbooks-price-today-problems-tomorrow#comment-11425</link>
		<dc:creator>buyer first home mobile time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;buyer first home mobile time...&lt;/strong&gt;

Didn't realise there was this type of information out there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>buyer first home mobile time&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t realise there was this type of information out there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ASUS Eee 901Go is A Killer device. (This is not a review) &#124; UMPCPortal - The Ultra Mobile Computing reference site</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/netbooks-price-today-problems-tomorrow#comment-11076</link>
		<dc:creator>ASUS Eee 901Go is A Killer device. (This is not a review) &#124; UMPCPortal - The Ultra Mobile Computing reference site</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There&#8217;s no doubt that the low-cost netbook trend will affect pro-mobile sales. It&#8217;s likely to affect laptop sales too. People in the industry are already hinting to me that they have problems. OEMS can&#8217;t price and position pro-mobile devices with confidence and specialist resellers have problems choosing which devices to stock. They don&#8217;t want to be left with a shelf full of out-of-fashion netbooks. There are still a few areas where netbooks can&#8217;t compete with UMPCs; built-in 3G, size and weight advantages, touchscreens, alternative form factors and rugged builds which can drive some good high-margin sales but when a well known brand comes along and offers a device with reasonable mobility advantages, a known quality-level, huge battery life, built-in 3G and a great price, you have to wonder how customers, OEMs and resellers in the mobile PC market will respond. [More of my thoughts about netbooks causing industry problems in this article.] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There&#8217;s no doubt that the low-cost netbook trend will affect pro-mobile sales. It&#8217;s likely to affect laptop sales too. People in the industry are already hinting to me that they have problems. OEMS can&#8217;t price and position pro-mobile devices with confidence and specialist resellers have problems choosing which devices to stock. They don&#8217;t want to be left with a shelf full of out-of-fashion netbooks. There are still a few areas where netbooks can&#8217;t compete with UMPCs; built-in 3G, size and weight advantages, touchscreens, alternative form factors and rugged builds which can drive some good high-margin sales but when a well known brand comes along and offers a device with reasonable mobility advantages, a known quality-level, huge battery life, built-in 3G and a great price, you have to wonder how customers, OEMs and resellers in the mobile PC market will respond. [More of my thoughts about netbooks causing industry problems in this article.] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ecsk2</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/netbooks-price-today-problems-tomorrow#comment-10801</link>
		<dc:creator>ecsk2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"There’s at least five versions of the MSI Wind out there now and the latest one is by a light-bulb manufacturer! "

I can only assume you're talking about the Sylvania MAGNI.

There's a lot more to the Sylvania brand than the "Osram Sylvania" with your recent visit to North America I would've expected you would've run across more of the Funai Electric produced products branded as Sylvania:
http://www.sylvaniaconsumerelectronics.com/index.php (see ABOUT US)

Whereas Funai dates back to the early 60's, Osram only got involved with Sylvania a decade and a half ago.

So just trying to point out that Sylvania as a brand name is by no means associated with light bulbs (only) by the consumer(s) in the market(s) where this Netbook most likely will be marketed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There’s at least five versions of the MSI Wind out there now and the latest one is by a light-bulb manufacturer! &#8221;</p>
<p>I can only assume you&#8217;re talking about the Sylvania MAGNI.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot more to the Sylvania brand than the &#8220;Osram Sylvania&#8221; with your recent visit to North America I would&#8217;ve expected you would&#8217;ve run across more of the Funai Electric produced products branded as Sylvania:<br />
<a href="http://www.sylvaniaconsumerelectronics.com/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.sylvaniaconsumerelectronics.com/index.php</a> (see ABOUT US)</p>
<p>Whereas Funai dates back to the early 60&#8217;s, Osram only got involved with Sylvania a decade and a half ago.</p>
<p>So just trying to point out that Sylvania as a brand name is by no means associated with light bulbs (only) by the consumer(s) in the market(s) where this Netbook most likely will be marketed.</p>
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		<title>By: Judge</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/netbooks-price-today-problems-tomorrow#comment-10704</link>
		<dc:creator>Judge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Netbooks and Mids should all be priced in the gap between PDA's and Laptops in the UK that means between £180 - £300. Most people compare netbooks to laptop and wont buy a netbook that is priced more than a laptop as people equate larger size and perfromance with better value psyhcologically (i.e no would buy a Mini that cost more than a BMW 5 series).  

If say the M912M sold for £299 I think it would sell by the shed loads more as people would see it as amazing value, the peerfect in-car pc with the added advantage of being a mini laptop.  The problem with the current price of this and most Premium UMPC's is they are priced to high (in laptop territory) where compared with performance on laptops they represent poor value for money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Netbooks and Mids should all be priced in the gap between PDA&#8217;s and Laptops in the UK that means between £180 - £300. Most people compare netbooks to laptop and wont buy a netbook that is priced more than a laptop as people equate larger size and perfromance with better value psyhcologically (i.e no would buy a Mini that cost more than a BMW 5 series).  </p>
<p>If say the M912M sold for £299 I think it would sell by the shed loads more as people would see it as amazing value, the peerfect in-car pc with the added advantage of being a mini laptop.  The problem with the current price of this and most Premium UMPC&#8217;s is they are priced to high (in laptop territory) where compared with performance on laptops they represent poor value for money.</p>
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		<title>By: Dominik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dominik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toshiba U105 has been released in middle of 2005.
Thats 3 years ago. Its a long time in computer industry.
Since then laptop CPUs progressed from Pentium M to Core Duo and Core Duo II!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toshiba U105 has been released in middle of 2005.<br />
Thats 3 years ago. Its a long time in computer industry.<br />
Since then laptop CPUs progressed from Pentium M to Core Duo and Core Duo II!</p>
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		<title>By: turn.self.off</title>
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		<dc:creator>turn.self.off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>err, forgot to ask how old that toshiba is.

btw, the way i see it, when tech goes forward it can do one of two things, improve performance for the same price, or give same performance for the same price.

the last 20 years its been doing the former, i would say its about time it starts doing the latter.

the thing tho is choice, or providing both sides with what they want. sadly one cant have both, its either cheaper or more powerful.

or maybe its 3 things?

cheap, powerful, portable, pick any two...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>err, forgot to ask how old that toshiba is.</p>
<p>btw, the way i see it, when tech goes forward it can do one of two things, improve performance for the same price, or give same performance for the same price.</p>
<p>the last 20 years its been doing the former, i would say its about time it starts doing the latter.</p>
<p>the thing tho is choice, or providing both sides with what they want. sadly one cant have both, its either cheaper or more powerful.</p>
<p>or maybe its 3 things?</p>
<p>cheap, powerful, portable, pick any two&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: turn.self.off</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/netbooks-price-today-problems-tomorrow#comment-10661</link>
		<dc:creator>turn.self.off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 21:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seems there is a built in limit of nesting on the comments.

12 pounds? sounds like a collapsible desktop, not a laptop ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seems there is a built in limit of nesting on the comments.</p>
<p>12 pounds? sounds like a collapsible desktop, not a laptop <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Dominik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dominik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, we run out of reply levels?
I have "muscle" laptop - Sager NP9750 with 2GB RAM, Athlon FX60, 17" 1920x1200, 320GB+160GB HDD and Geforce 7800GTX. And it weights 12 pounds. So when I go on vacation I take little Toshiba with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, we run out of reply levels?<br />
I have &#8220;muscle&#8221; laptop - Sager NP9750 with 2GB RAM, Athlon FX60, 17&#8243; 1920&#215;1200, 320GB+160GB HDD and Geforce 7800GTX. And it weights 12 pounds. So when I go on vacation I take little Toshiba with me.</p>
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		<title>By: turn.self.off</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/netbooks-price-today-problems-tomorrow#comment-10639</link>
		<dc:creator>turn.self.off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh, photos (and given the comment about raw processing, DSLR), i was tempted to guess that beforehand.

media work and programming seems to be the reasons people grab "muscle" laptops these days, for private use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh, photos (and given the comment about raw processing, DSLR), i was tempted to guess that beforehand.</p>
<p>media work and programming seems to be the reasons people grab &#8220;muscle&#8221; laptops these days, for private use.</p>
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		<title>By: turn.self.off</title>
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		<dc:creator>turn.self.off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 13:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont think apple will do that, but what your describing sounds like redfly.

http://www.celiocorp.com/

or for that matter a mid with a docking station...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont think apple will do that, but what your describing sounds like redfly.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.celiocorp.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.celiocorp.com/</a></p>
<p>or for that matter a mid with a docking station&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Riedel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Riedel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 10:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, here is my view. Netbooks are a good, cheap notebook alternative for the masses. Bring the "personal" computer to every person. Unless you use it for a high CPU cycle consuming application, a netbook will do fine. I have a Fujitsu P1610 as my business machine (works fine for my use) and a Fujitsu U810 as a "travel" computer. I left PDAs and smart phones behind, PDA's because of the lack of CPU power and smartphones because I need my phone to hold a charge for a few days rather than hours.

Now, here is the kicker. I don't take any computer for travelling anymore. My iPod Touch is the best PDA/mobile browser I ever had. Safari works well with most sites, I have music, videos, note taking, photo viewing, ebook reading, calendar, email, all in one tiny device.

Netbooks are the last spasm of the notebook industry. Imagine 3 years from now everyone has an ipod touch/iphone style device (not necessarily from Apple), easy to use on the go and docked with larger screen and bluetooth keyboard at home.

Aunt Mary and Uncle Joe don't care what OS they have, as long as they can surf their favorite sites, get email and maybe IM. Multi-tasking? Just watch non-geeks use a computer. They don't ;-)

Put bluetooth in the iPod Touch and give it a dock with VGA out and you are there.

Not affiliated with Apple and not particularly fond of Apple :-) But they got something there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, here is my view. Netbooks are a good, cheap notebook alternative for the masses. Bring the &#8220;personal&#8221; computer to every person. Unless you use it for a high CPU cycle consuming application, a netbook will do fine. I have a Fujitsu P1610 as my business machine (works fine for my use) and a Fujitsu U810 as a &#8220;travel&#8221; computer. I left PDAs and smart phones behind, PDA&#8217;s because of the lack of CPU power and smartphones because I need my phone to hold a charge for a few days rather than hours.</p>
<p>Now, here is the kicker. I don&#8217;t take any computer for travelling anymore. My iPod Touch is the best PDA/mobile browser I ever had. Safari works well with most sites, I have music, videos, note taking, photo viewing, ebook reading, calendar, email, all in one tiny device.</p>
<p>Netbooks are the last spasm of the notebook industry. Imagine 3 years from now everyone has an ipod touch/iphone style device (not necessarily from Apple), easy to use on the go and docked with larger screen and bluetooth keyboard at home.</p>
<p>Aunt Mary and Uncle Joe don&#8217;t care what OS they have, as long as they can surf their favorite sites, get email and maybe IM. Multi-tasking? Just watch non-geeks use a computer. They don&#8217;t <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Put bluetooth in the iPod Touch and give it a dock with VGA out and you are there.</p>
<p>Not affiliated with Apple and not particularly fond of Apple <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> But they got something there.</p>
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