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	<title>Comments on: Samsung gets it right Again, Again With the NC10</title>
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		<title>By: Samsung &#8216;Slate&#8217; in 2H10. Why MeeGo and Moorestown are High on the List. &#124; UMPCPortal - Ultra Mobile Personal Computing</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/samsung-gets-it-right-again-again-with-the-nc10/#comment-32758</link>
		<dc:creator>Samsung &#8216;Slate&#8217; in 2H10. Why MeeGo and Moorestown are High on the List. &#124; UMPCPortal - Ultra Mobile Personal Computing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the last 4 years, Samsung have consistently produced good quality UMPCs and Netbooks. The NC10 is still a good netbook choice and the Q1 Ultra (image right) was a cracking UMPC. When Samsung announced that they would build an [...]</description>
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<p>[...] the last 4 years, Samsung have consistently produced good quality UMPCs and Netbooks. The NC10 is still a good netbook choice and the Q1 Ultra (image right) was a cracking UMPC. When Samsung announced that they would build an [...]</p>
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		<title>By: This Week in Netbooks &#187; Samsung NC10 sips power while others guzzle</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/samsung-gets-it-right-again-again-with-the-nc10/#comment-12450</link>
		<dc:creator>This Week in Netbooks &#187; Samsung NC10 sips power while others guzzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] screen brightness, the test result reduced to 4hrs 38 minutes which is 12.3 watts drain.   [via UMPC Portal]  Anti-Shock Sleeve Case for Samsung 10-inch netbook NC10Current bid: $4.95 on [...]</description>
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<p>[...] screen brightness, the test result reduced to 4hrs 38 minutes which is 12.3 watts drain.   [via UMPC Portal]  Anti-Shock Sleeve Case for Samsung 10-inch netbook NC10Current bid: $4.95 on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Electric Vagabond</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/samsung-gets-it-right-again-again-with-the-nc10/#comment-12449</link>
		<dc:creator>Electric Vagabond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah that does suck but the touchpad looks bigger than the tiny one on the NC10 so its a tradeoff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah that does suck but the touchpad looks bigger than the tiny one on the NC10 so its a tradeoff</p>
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		<title>By: Chippy</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/samsung-gets-it-right-again-again-with-the-nc10/#comment-12439</link>
		<dc:creator>Chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just released your comments from autospam so there might be duplicates David.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just released your comments from autospam so there might be duplicates David.</p>
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		<title>By: ProDigit</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/samsung-gets-it-right-again-again-with-the-nc10/#comment-12430</link>
		<dc:creator>ProDigit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the one thing I don&#039;t like about the HP is the bad placement of the mouse buttons (L &amp; R of the pad, instead of on the right or bottom).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the one thing I don&#8217;t like about the HP is the bad placement of the mouse buttons (L &amp; R of the pad, instead of on the right or bottom).</p>
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		<title>By: ProDigit</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/samsung-gets-it-right-again-again-with-the-nc10/#comment-12429</link>
		<dc:creator>ProDigit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they seem to go from 399 Euro on ebay.de</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they seem to go from 399 Euro on ebay.de</p>
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		<title>By: Electric Vagabond</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/samsung-gets-it-right-again-again-with-the-nc10/#comment-12417</link>
		<dc:creator>Electric Vagabond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 13:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this netbook too and I&#039;d say its hands down the most popular machine in the market at the moment. I have to admit though I really LOVE the HP Mini 1000. It has a couple of glaring flaws but once the 6-cell is available and cheap 3rd party VGA-Out adaptors hit eBay this thing will take off. 

I will admit Samsung have hit the nail on the head in more than a couple of areas and the battery life is astounding. Nice analysis on the power drain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this netbook too and I&#8217;d say its hands down the most popular machine in the market at the moment. I have to admit though I really LOVE the HP Mini 1000. It has a couple of glaring flaws but once the 6-cell is available and cheap 3rd party VGA-Out adaptors hit eBay this thing will take off. </p>
<p>I will admit Samsung have hit the nail on the head in more than a couple of areas and the battery life is astounding. Nice analysis on the power drain.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/samsung-gets-it-right-again-again-with-the-nc10/#comment-12386</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, you can&#039;t compare different computers - but you can test NC10&#039;s battery life with different settings, as was done here. *If* we assume 40-50% brightness setting is often good enough, we could expect 6-7 hours out of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, you can&#8217;t compare different computers &#8211; but you can test NC10&#8242;s battery life with different settings, as was done here. *If* we assume 40-50% brightness setting is often good enough, we could expect 6-7 hours out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidC1</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/samsung-gets-it-right-again-again-with-the-nc10/#comment-12364</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidC1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 04:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look here: http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mahesri/research/PACS_paper.pdf

14.1 inch screen with possibly not using LED backlighting uses less power than a 10 inch screen that uses LED backlighting. The 14.1 inch screen only uses 4.4W of power while the NC10&#039;s 10 inch screen consumes over 5W. 

I&#039;d think technologies like LED backlighting is geared for better brightness and readability than battery life. You are wrong if you think they can achieve both and this is the proof.

Of course its true that CPU isn&#039;t the biggest power consumption when its at almost idle mode suring the web. The motherboard PCB that holds all the components use not insignificant amounts of power and so does the power supply and the chip that controls power flow.

Which is why one of the main focuses for Menlow and Moorestown was for the power control IC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look here: <a href="http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mahesri/research/PACS_paper.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mahesri/research/PACS_paper.pdf</a></p>
<p>14.1 inch screen with possibly not using LED backlighting uses less power than a 10 inch screen that uses LED backlighting. The 14.1 inch screen only uses 4.4W of power while the NC10&#8242;s 10 inch screen consumes over 5W. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d think technologies like LED backlighting is geared for better brightness and readability than battery life. You are wrong if you think they can achieve both and this is the proof.</p>
<p>Of course its true that CPU isn&#8217;t the biggest power consumption when its at almost idle mode suring the web. The motherboard PCB that holds all the components use not insignificant amounts of power and so does the power supply and the chip that controls power flow.</p>
<p>Which is why one of the main focuses for Menlow and Moorestown was for the power control IC.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidC1</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/samsung-gets-it-right-again-again-with-the-nc10/#comment-12363</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidC1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 04:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to here: http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mahesri/research/PACS_paper.pdf

The 14.1 inch screen consumes just 4.4W with full brightness. 

My impression is that the LED backlighting isn&#039;t aimed for lower power consumption, but rather brighter and better to read screens. The 14.1 inch screen that is likely not using LED backlighting is far more efficient than a 10-inch LED backlit screen. 

Of course it isn&#039;t about CPUs only. Even the PCB that holds the CPUs and other chips consumes power and so does the power supply and the chip that manages power.

Are we going the wrong way for power efficiency?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to here: <a href="http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mahesri/research/PACS_paper.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mahesri/research/PACS_paper.pdf</a></p>
<p>The 14.1 inch screen consumes just 4.4W with full brightness. </p>
<p>My impression is that the LED backlighting isn&#8217;t aimed for lower power consumption, but rather brighter and better to read screens. The 14.1 inch screen that is likely not using LED backlighting is far more efficient than a 10-inch LED backlit screen. </p>
<p>Of course it isn&#8217;t about CPUs only. Even the PCB that holds the CPUs and other chips consumes power and so does the power supply and the chip that manages power.</p>
<p>Are we going the wrong way for power efficiency?</p>
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		<title>By: DavidC1</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/samsung-gets-it-right-again-again-with-the-nc10/#comment-12346</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidC1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 01:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now you quote 5W figure for the 10 inch screen. That tells me these LED backlighting devices aren&#039;t efficient than previous gen ones with different backlighting tech.

Look here: 
http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mahesri/research/PACS_paper.pdf

Somebody has done extensive testing for power consumption for a laptop. This one has 14.1 inch screen yet it only uses 4.4W with full screen brightness. You cannot judge that a 5.6 inch screen will have half the power consumption of a 11.2 inch screen.

These LED backlighting technology isn&#039;t there to save power, its there to increase brightness with the goal of using similar power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now you quote 5W figure for the 10 inch screen. That tells me these LED backlighting devices aren&#8217;t efficient than previous gen ones with different backlighting tech.</p>
<p>Look here:<br />
<a href="http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mahesri/research/PACS_paper.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mahesri/research/PACS_paper.pdf</a></p>
<p>Somebody has done extensive testing for power consumption for a laptop. This one has 14.1 inch screen yet it only uses 4.4W with full screen brightness. You cannot judge that a 5.6 inch screen will have half the power consumption of a 11.2 inch screen.</p>
<p>These LED backlighting technology isn&#8217;t there to save power, its there to increase brightness with the goal of using similar power.</p>
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		<title>By: Brilo</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/samsung-gets-it-right-again-again-with-the-nc10/#comment-12343</link>
		<dc:creator>Brilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 01:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its silly to judge PC&#039;s battery life spans by their brightness levels, 1 manufactures 50% brightness isnt necessarily the same as another manufactures &quot;50% brightness&quot;. there needs to be a scientific standard for brightness levels across all manufactures so that battery life can be judged fairly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its silly to judge PC&#8217;s battery life spans by their brightness levels, 1 manufactures 50% brightness isnt necessarily the same as another manufactures &#8220;50% brightness&#8221;. there needs to be a scientific standard for brightness levels across all manufactures so that battery life can be judged fairly.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see an equally well-engineered 9&quot; model. With 3G (and touchscreen if possible).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see an equally well-engineered 9&#8243; model. With 3G (and touchscreen if possible).</p>
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		<title>By: Fredrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fredrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read tons of reviews of all the latest netbooks but have not bought any of them until now. I just ordered mine from Clove UK and I can&#039;t wait to get my hands on it. Excellent battery life, good keyboard and also a much more high-end looking design compared to the other netbooks. It&#039;s a no-brainer, this netbook beats all the other competitors including the MSI Wind, Asus 1000H, Asus S101, LG X110, you name it - the Samsung NC10 is better in just about every aspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read tons of reviews of all the latest netbooks but have not bought any of them until now. I just ordered mine from Clove UK and I can&#8217;t wait to get my hands on it. Excellent battery life, good keyboard and also a much more high-end looking design compared to the other netbooks. It&#8217;s a no-brainer, this netbook beats all the other competitors including the MSI Wind, Asus 1000H, Asus S101, LG X110, you name it &#8211; the Samsung NC10 is better in just about every aspect.</p>
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