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	<title>Comments on: Ubuntu-UMPC, Ubuntu-MID 8.10 launch. Time to join the party?</title>
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		<title>By: Good news for Linux/Menlow Netbooks, UMPCs and MIDs &#124; UMPCPortal - Ultra Mobile Personal Computing</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/ubuntu-umpc-ubuntu-mid-810-launch-time-to-join-the-party/#comment-28455</link>
		<dc:creator>Good news for Linux/Menlow Netbooks, UMPCs and MIDs &#124; UMPCPortal - Ultra Mobile Personal Computing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] work on Moblin 1 with the Ubuntu-MID distribution but that project is now static. Then there was Ubuntu-Mobile which turned into Ubuntu UMPC. Again, this project stopped. The Ubuntu Netbook Remix project also started and this is the one [...]</description>
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<p>[...] work on Moblin 1 with the Ubuntu-MID distribution but that project is now static. Then there was Ubuntu-Mobile which turned into Ubuntu UMPC. Again, this project stopped. The Ubuntu Netbook Remix project also started and this is the one [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/ubuntu-umpc-ubuntu-mid-810-launch-time-to-join-the-party/#comment-17698</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another image of Ubuntu UMPC can be downloaded here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another image of Ubuntu UMPC can be downloaded here: <a href="http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/" rel="nofollow">http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/</a></p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/ubuntu-umpc-ubuntu-mid-810-launch-time-to-join-the-party/#comment-17359</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which iso are you trying to get. 
I have already informed Canonical that the UMPC ISO has gone.

S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which iso are you trying to get.<br />
I have already informed Canonical that the UMPC ISO has gone.</p>
<p>S.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/ubuntu-umpc-ubuntu-mid-810-launch-time-to-join-the-party/#comment-17353</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link to the server at download site seems to be off line. Are there any other sites where you can get a download of iso file to load?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link to the server at download site seems to be off line. Are there any other sites where you can get a download of iso file to load?</p>
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		<title>By: jpmatrix</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/ubuntu-umpc-ubuntu-mid-810-launch-time-to-join-the-party/#comment-12425</link>
		<dc:creator>jpmatrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i ve tried both under my Fujitsu u1010 and both was a great disapointment : i could never calibrate the touchscreen (although in touchpanel bios mode)...

moreover ubuntu-mid have definitely not a sexy look.... ubuntu-umpc looks better but i totally disaggree with the design of the desktop which makes your umpc looks like a toy...

for now, i ll keep my Mandriva 2008 which works great quite out of the box</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i ve tried both under my Fujitsu u1010 and both was a great disapointment : i could never calibrate the touchscreen (although in touchpanel bios mode)&#8230;</p>
<p>moreover ubuntu-mid have definitely not a sexy look&#8230;. ubuntu-umpc looks better but i totally disaggree with the design of the desktop which makes your umpc looks like a toy&#8230;</p>
<p>for now, i ll keep my Mandriva 2008 which works great quite out of the box</p>
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		<title>By: Ubuntu Linux 8.10: Intrepid Ibex disponibile per MID e UMPC - Notebook Italia &#171; ReMa2007.net</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/ubuntu-umpc-ubuntu-mid-810-launch-time-to-join-the-party/#comment-12411</link>
		<dc:creator>Ubuntu Linux 8.10: Intrepid Ibex disponibile per MID e UMPC - Notebook Italia &#171; ReMa2007.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 11:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nuova versione Ubuntu Linux, 8.10, nome in codice Intrepid Ibex (Stambecco Intrepido), ma forse non tutti sanno che la distribuzione sarà indirizzata non solo a computer portatili e PC desktop, ma anche ai [...]</description>
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<p>[...] nuova versione Ubuntu Linux, 8.10, nome in codice Intrepid Ibex (Stambecco Intrepido), ma forse non tutti sanno che la distribuzione sarà indirizzata non solo a computer portatili e PC desktop, ma anche ai [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tjs</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/ubuntu-umpc-ubuntu-mid-810-launch-time-to-join-the-party/#comment-12306</link>
		<dc:creator>tjs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, as far as I know that is correct.  I only hope this problem would get enough publicity to make it happen soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, as far as I know that is correct.  I only hope this problem would get enough publicity to make it happen soon!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/ubuntu-umpc-ubuntu-mid-810-launch-time-to-join-the-party/#comment-12302</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks TJS, for clearing the driver issue up.

I never saw the point of binary drivers but I guess some people like to hide their tricks ;-)

I assume the binary drivers for the touch on the Compal device can&#039;t be taken from the Aigo MID as its running a different Kernel version right? In that case, not only Intel need to re-build drivers against new kernel, but the touchscreen manufacturer too. Then they need to deliver to Canonical so that team can deliver, finaly, a working version of Ubuntu-MID, for at least one of the MIDs!

Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks TJS, for clearing the driver issue up.</p>
<p>I never saw the point of binary drivers but I guess some people like to hide their tricks <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I assume the binary drivers for the touch on the Compal device can&#8217;t be taken from the Aigo MID as its running a different Kernel version right? In that case, not only Intel need to re-build drivers against new kernel, but the touchscreen manufacturer too. Then they need to deliver to Canonical so that team can deliver, finaly, a working version of Ubuntu-MID, for at least one of the MIDs!</p>
<p>Steve.</p>
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		<title>By: tjs</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/ubuntu-umpc-ubuntu-mid-810-launch-time-to-join-the-party/#comment-12276</link>
		<dc:creator>tjs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, 

regarding the lack of moblin forums...  

As you know, Intel has intended Moblin project for open source developers only. As Moblin is just bunch of source code to support MIDs there is nothing for users to benefit in taking part of that community.  Developers prefer mailing lists and irc so at least here Intel works by the rules of developer community :)  

However I understand your point and I appreciate the attention you are bringing to this problem!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, </p>
<p>regarding the lack of moblin forums&#8230;  </p>
<p>As you know, Intel has intended Moblin project for open source developers only. As Moblin is just bunch of source code to support MIDs there is nothing for users to benefit in taking part of that community.  Developers prefer mailing lists and irc so at least here Intel works by the rules of developer community <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>However I understand your point and I appreciate the attention you are bringing to this problem!</p>
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		<title>By: tjs</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/ubuntu-umpc-ubuntu-mid-810-launch-time-to-join-the-party/#comment-12275</link>
		<dc:creator>tjs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I know the problem is that Intel has released drivers only for older xorg and kernel versions that were in Hardy.  These are not compatible with the versions shipped with Intrepid anymore.  Since the old drivers are only binary files they cannot be fixed by the developer community, regardless how minimal or hard the job might be. Staying with old xorg and kernel would lock Ubuntu out of the latest development in these areas so that makes no sense either.

Compal has chosen hardware components from other manufacturers too that do not have open source drivers, like the touchscreen.

Intel has great track record for linux-friendly hardware. They have released source code for many drivers and they employ developers that work with the community to support these drivers in true open source style. Only this makes it possible for open distributions to support the devices. For some reason this way of working has not expanded to the newest MID chipset yet.

If vendors want to benefit from linux and the open source developer community, they need to work along the rules set by the developer community too. They need to sort out how to support their hardware in open source manner. Otherwise it will just end up in misery for the consumers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I know the problem is that Intel has released drivers only for older xorg and kernel versions that were in Hardy.  These are not compatible with the versions shipped with Intrepid anymore.  Since the old drivers are only binary files they cannot be fixed by the developer community, regardless how minimal or hard the job might be. Staying with old xorg and kernel would lock Ubuntu out of the latest development in these areas so that makes no sense either.</p>
<p>Compal has chosen hardware components from other manufacturers too that do not have open source drivers, like the touchscreen.</p>
<p>Intel has great track record for linux-friendly hardware. They have released source code for many drivers and they employ developers that work with the community to support these drivers in true open source style. Only this makes it possible for open distributions to support the devices. For some reason this way of working has not expanded to the newest MID chipset yet.</p>
<p>If vendors want to benefit from linux and the open source developer community, they need to work along the rules set by the developer community too. They need to sort out how to support their hardware in open source manner. Otherwise it will just end up in misery for the consumers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chippy</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/ubuntu-umpc-ubuntu-mid-810-launch-time-to-join-the-party/#comment-12273</link>
		<dc:creator>Chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not looking good at all unfortunately...
http://jkkmobile.blogspot.com/2008/10/ubuntu-mid-on-aigo-mid.html

At least for MIDs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not looking good at all unfortunately&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://jkkmobile.blogspot.com/2008/10/ubuntu-mid-on-aigo-mid.html" rel="nofollow">http://jkkmobile.blogspot.com/2008/10/ubuntu-mid-on-aigo-mid.html</a></p>
<p>At least for MIDs!</p>
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		<title>By: icura</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/ubuntu-umpc-ubuntu-mid-810-launch-time-to-join-the-party/#comment-12271</link>
		<dc:creator>icura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks good.  Anyone want to report on how it works with U810/U1010?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks good.  Anyone want to report on how it works with U810/U1010?</p>
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		<title>By: Chippy</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/ubuntu-umpc-ubuntu-mid-810-launch-time-to-join-the-party/#comment-12269</link>
		<dc:creator>Chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SHould be interesting to see the comments....!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SHould be interesting to see the comments&#8230;.!</p>
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		<title>By: jkkmobile</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/ubuntu-umpc-ubuntu-mid-810-launch-time-to-join-the-party/#comment-12267</link>
		<dc:creator>jkkmobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uploading my test video now....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uploading my test video now&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/ubuntu-umpc-ubuntu-mid-810-launch-time-to-join-the-party/#comment-12266</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly what I expected. I don&#039;t see any reason for trying these on netbooks either unless you&#039;re a linux dev yourself and ready to fix things yourself.

I&#039;d *really* like to see linux and new hardware support each other one of these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly what I expected. I don&#8217;t see any reason for trying these on netbooks either unless you&#8217;re a linux dev yourself and ready to fix things yourself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d *really* like to see linux and new hardware support each other one of these days.</p>
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