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	<title>Comments on: How big can a Mobile Internet Device Be? Kindle-Sized?</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Kindle</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/how-big-can-a-mobile-internet-device-be-kindle-sized/#comment-18092</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Kindle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just came across your blog on Google.  Interesting post, you bring up a few good things to think about.  Good luck with the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just came across your blog on Google.  Interesting post, you bring up a few good things to think about.  Good luck with the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave P</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/how-big-can-a-mobile-internet-device-be-kindle-sized/#comment-13861</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To my mind, there are three categories of small, light weight devices.

The smallest is &quot;pocketable&quot;. This would include many, if not most, of what are now called MIDs and a few of the smaller devices that used to be called UMPCs (e.g. the OQO). These devices are small and light enough to fit in a normal pocket or be carried on a belt.

The category I would see the Kindle fitting into is &quot;hand held&quot;. These are small and light enough to be used while standing but too big to pocket. They require a bag of some sort to carry them around. Some MIDs (e.g. the Kindle) and most UMPCs fit into this category as would small touch screen laptops.

Lastly you get to &quot;mini laptops&quot;. These may be no bigger than a hand held but they are designed for use with a keyboard so they require a surface to set them on. Most netbooks would fit in this category. I would place an upper limit of about 1 kg on weight so laptops like the MacBook Air would not qualify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To my mind, there are three categories of small, light weight devices.</p>
<p>The smallest is &#8220;pocketable&#8221;. This would include many, if not most, of what are now called MIDs and a few of the smaller devices that used to be called UMPCs (e.g. the OQO). These devices are small and light enough to fit in a normal pocket or be carried on a belt.</p>
<p>The category I would see the Kindle fitting into is &#8220;hand held&#8221;. These are small and light enough to be used while standing but too big to pocket. They require a bag of some sort to carry them around. Some MIDs (e.g. the Kindle) and most UMPCs fit into this category as would small touch screen laptops.</p>
<p>Lastly you get to &#8220;mini laptops&#8221;. These may be no bigger than a hand held but they are designed for use with a keyboard so they require a surface to set them on. Most netbooks would fit in this category. I would place an upper limit of about 1 kg on weight so laptops like the MacBook Air would not qualify.</p>
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		<title>By: 7.4 million phone users browse mobile web in UK - T3 &#124; Intro to Schools Telecoms</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/how-big-can-a-mobile-internet-device-be-kindle-sized/#comment-13853</link>
		<dc:creator>7.4 million phone users browse mobile web in UK - T3 &#124; Intro to Schools Telecoms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ProDigit</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/how-big-can-a-mobile-internet-device-be-kindle-sized/#comment-13830</link>
		<dc:creator>ProDigit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the wireless connection of the kindle is only there to download books from amazon.com,and to view wikipedia I heard a while ago.
fact is,you can&#039;t even share files with the kindle.
It has like Sony, an extreme slow processor,and leave wifi on constant browsing,and the battery drops to a couple of hours!
It&#039;s slow,and their screen is made purely for reading,no animation/movies/flash sites.
The good thing about e-ink is that it uses 100 to 1000 times less power than OLED,which uses plenty less than standard TFT/LED screens.
the bad is that the refresh rate is about 1fps,and since it&#039;s not a graphical device, but a battery lasting one, the rest of the device isn&#039;t really to be called speedy.

It runs Linux, has between 4 to 8 grey tints, 8MB RAM,and between 64 and 512MB MLC Flash memory.
The OS takes about 16MB in size.

Currently there are few e-ink devices,like:
Jinke Hanlin or BeBook, Cybook, Sony reader,Kindle,and Iliad reader.
Also new in the row is for musicians (no e-ink),is the Music pad Pro Plus from freehand systems.

On this site we seem to hear so little about the palmtop anymore!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the wireless connection of the kindle is only there to download books from amazon.com,and to view wikipedia I heard a while ago.<br />
fact is,you can&#8217;t even share files with the kindle.<br />
It has like Sony, an extreme slow processor,and leave wifi on constant browsing,and the battery drops to a couple of hours!<br />
It&#8217;s slow,and their screen is made purely for reading,no animation/movies/flash sites.<br />
The good thing about e-ink is that it uses 100 to 1000 times less power than OLED,which uses plenty less than standard TFT/LED screens.<br />
the bad is that the refresh rate is about 1fps,and since it&#8217;s not a graphical device, but a battery lasting one, the rest of the device isn&#8217;t really to be called speedy.</p>
<p>It runs Linux, has between 4 to 8 grey tints, 8MB RAM,and between 64 and 512MB MLC Flash memory.<br />
The OS takes about 16MB in size.</p>
<p>Currently there are few e-ink devices,like:<br />
Jinke Hanlin or BeBook, Cybook, Sony reader,Kindle,and Iliad reader.<br />
Also new in the row is for musicians (no e-ink),is the Music pad Pro Plus from freehand systems.</p>
<p>On this site we seem to hear so little about the palmtop anymore!</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/how-big-can-a-mobile-internet-device-be-kindle-sized/#comment-13672</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For my money, the Nokia tablets are just about perfect.

I really miss mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my money, the Nokia tablets are just about perfect.</p>
<p>I really miss mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Gammer</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/how-big-can-a-mobile-internet-device-be-kindle-sized/#comment-13647</link>
		<dc:creator>Gammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, MIDs have to be semi-pocketable. This means I can carry them from A to B in my standard(!) pockets but maybe I cannot even sit down before I take the device out. For instance, WiBrain is semi-pocketable while Everun Note is not (unfortunately; I wish it had 4cm less depth). Therefore I guess a 7&quot; display is currently the maximum for MIDs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, MIDs have to be semi-pocketable. This means I can carry them from A to B in my standard(!) pockets but maybe I cannot even sit down before I take the device out. For instance, WiBrain is semi-pocketable while Everun Note is not (unfortunately; I wish it had 4cm less depth). Therefore I guess a 7&#8243; display is currently the maximum for MIDs.</p>
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		<title>By: HG</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/how-big-can-a-mobile-internet-device-be-kindle-sized/#comment-13633</link>
		<dc:creator>HG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just in my opinion I say anything from a 4&quot; - 7&quot; screen should be consider a MID. I have the SC3 and the M912 and also the Aigo. I use them depending what I will be doing and if I&#039;m just going to be using Web browsing or going to the stores, then I take the Aigo or the SC3 if I plan to do some work while going shopping. I use the M912 everyday during the week for work because its still very small and is very quick for what I need it. I also sometimes take the SC3 to use at work but wish it had better battery life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just in my opinion I say anything from a 4&#8243; &#8211; 7&#8243; screen should be consider a MID. I have the SC3 and the M912 and also the Aigo. I use them depending what I will be doing and if I&#8217;m just going to be using Web browsing or going to the stores, then I take the Aigo or the SC3 if I plan to do some work while going shopping. I use the M912 everyday during the week for work because its still very small and is very quick for what I need it. I also sometimes take the SC3 to use at work but wish it had better battery life.</p>
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		<title>By: BRYAN B</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/how-big-can-a-mobile-internet-device-be-kindle-sized/#comment-13630</link>
		<dc:creator>BRYAN B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are going to find that standard labeling isn&#039;t going to be sufficient in the coming years . It seams like every day some new and spectacular device or technology is introduced.
For instance, where does The Plastic Logic fit today

 http://www.plasticlogic.com/

More importantly, where will it fit once people get their hands on the device, then find even more and creative things to do with the technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are going to find that standard labeling isn&#8217;t going to be sufficient in the coming years . It seams like every day some new and spectacular device or technology is introduced.<br />
For instance, where does The Plastic Logic fit today</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.plasticlogic.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.plasticlogic.com/</a></p>
<p>More importantly, where will it fit once people get their hands on the device, then find even more and creative things to do with the technology.</p>
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		<title>By: kamm</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/how-big-can-a-mobile-internet-device-be-kindle-sized/#comment-13625</link>
		<dc:creator>kamm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nonsense. X1 is great and everything but when it comes to RDP/VPN etc it&#039;s not much more useful than my TyTn - it&#039;s the same &quot;15-20 minutes internet&quot; experience, as I call it.

To tell you the truth I was thinking about Kindle for very long time - exactly because of its portability and its built-in, prepaid, unlimited 3G internet... then I realized that only +$200 can give me a full machine and I bought a Gigabyte M912M and I&#039;m pretty happy with it.
Yes, it&#039;s heavier than Kindle but it&#039;s a lot more as well and still can be held in your hand (you can fix it on your belly :)) and you can do a lot more than on a Shift or an Xperia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nonsense. X1 is great and everything but when it comes to RDP/VPN etc it&#8217;s not much more useful than my TyTn &#8211; it&#8217;s the same &#8220;15-20 minutes internet&#8221; experience, as I call it.</p>
<p>To tell you the truth I was thinking about Kindle for very long time &#8211; exactly because of its portability and its built-in, prepaid, unlimited 3G internet&#8230; then I realized that only +$200 can give me a full machine and I bought a Gigabyte M912M and I&#8217;m pretty happy with it.<br />
Yes, it&#8217;s heavier than Kindle but it&#8217;s a lot more as well and still can be held in your hand (you can fix it on your belly <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) and you can do a lot more than on a Shift or an Xperia.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/how-big-can-a-mobile-internet-device-be-kindle-sized/#comment-13619</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s one now ...it&#039;s called the Sony Ericsson Xperia. 

Fulfills most of the requirements -- 800x480 resolution, qwerty keypad (not full though), 150gm.

Simply VNC/Remote desktop to your home PC and you have a mobile workstation of sort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s one now &#8230;it&#8217;s called the Sony Ericsson Xperia. </p>
<p>Fulfills most of the requirements &#8212; 800&#215;480 resolution, qwerty keypad (not full though), 150gm.</p>
<p>Simply VNC/Remote desktop to your home PC and you have a mobile workstation of sort.</p>
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