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		<title>By: Archos: &#8216;Revolutionary&#8217; 800gm, 9&#34; Tablet. Moorestown products in 2010. &#124; UMPCPortal - The Mobile Internet and Computing Reference Site</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archos: &#8216;Revolutionary&#8217; 800gm, 9&#34; Tablet. Moorestown products in 2010. &#124; UMPCPortal - The Mobile Internet and Computing Reference Site</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] but given Archos consumer focus, is likely to be style-oriented and presumably, well-priced. The Techcrunch tablet team will have to watch this one. The press release then goes on to talk about a Moorestwon-based [...]</description>
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<p>[...] but given Archos consumer focus, is likely to be style-oriented and presumably, well-priced. The Techcrunch tablet team will have to watch this one. The press release then goes on to talk about a Moorestwon-based [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Crunchpad comments. &#124; UMPCPortal - The Mobile Internet and Computing Reference Site</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/techcrunch-trys-to-prep-some-ground-for-their-mid/#comment-16644</link>
		<dc:creator>Crunchpad comments. &#124; UMPCPortal - The Mobile Internet and Computing Reference Site</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Arrington&#8217;s original focus for the design was web activities so it&#8217;s not suprising he&#8217;s gone for a PC-based solution. Web-based activities are [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Arrington&#8217;s original focus for the design was web activities so it&#8217;s not suprising he&#8217;s gone for a PC-based solution. Web-based activities are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: elchinas</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/techcrunch-trys-to-prep-some-ground-for-their-mid/#comment-15900</link>
		<dc:creator>elchinas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;yo...&lt;/strong&gt;

Thank you! I would now go on this blog every day!...</description>
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<p><strong>yo&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Thank you! I would now go on this blog every day!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: alfa</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/techcrunch-trys-to-prep-some-ground-for-their-mid/#comment-13948</link>
		<dc:creator>alfa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple was first to make good virtual keyboard - on the iPhone
sometimes they will make a 9&quot; device
i believe only in Apple :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple was first to make good virtual keyboard &#8211; on the iPhone<br />
sometimes they will make a 9&#8243; device<br />
i believe only in Apple <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sascha</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/techcrunch-trys-to-prep-some-ground-for-their-mid/#comment-13946</link>
		<dc:creator>Sascha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>articles like this one are bringing &quot;link-farming&quot; to a new level. That&#039;s for sure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>articles like this one are bringing &#8220;link-farming&#8221; to a new level. That&#8217;s for sure</p>
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		<title>By: Sascha</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/techcrunch-trys-to-prep-some-ground-for-their-mid/#comment-13945</link>
		<dc:creator>Sascha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damn it... of course Walt works for the WSJ.. sorry guys i read too many articles from Techcrunch recently... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damn it&#8230; of course Walt works for the WSJ.. sorry guys i read too many articles from Techcrunch recently&#8230; <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sascha</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/techcrunch-trys-to-prep-some-ground-for-their-mid/#comment-13944</link>
		<dc:creator>Sascha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest, this is pretty much the worst spin after the Pat Moorhead video and the AMD Analyst Day.

All i can say is... WOW!!!!
I mean if any average 12year old would do something like that... well, ok! But on techcrunch? Holy moly!

I just got rid of the techcrunch rss feed and subscribed to Fox news... pretty much the same level of investigative journalism.

seems like someone is looking for Walts&#039; job at the NYT :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, this is pretty much the worst spin after the Pat Moorhead video and the AMD Analyst Day.</p>
<p>All i can say is&#8230; WOW!!!!<br />
I mean if any average 12year old would do something like that&#8230; well, ok! But on techcrunch? Holy moly!</p>
<p>I just got rid of the techcrunch rss feed and subscribed to Fox news&#8230; pretty much the same level of investigative journalism.</p>
<p>seems like someone is looking for Walts&#8217; job at the NYT <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: alfa</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/techcrunch-trys-to-prep-some-ground-for-their-mid/#comment-13941</link>
		<dc:creator>alfa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about CPU power for Flash, H.263 should be decoded on the specialaized  processor, so Ghz power is not needed

i think tablet is the next step (i mean form factor like Kohjinsha SC3). I&#039;m not sure about the $200, but we have eee pc 900 for $310 in Moscow now, so why cannot we have tablet for a bit bigger price?

the key moment i think is a virtual keyboard  - i think it&#039;s a mobile future for 5&quot; devices (because of the economy on the weight and thickness), but maybe for bigger screens too. iPhone showed that virtual keyboard can be pretty useful on 3,5&quot; screen. I&#039;m sure that enough fast typing is possible on 7&quot; and more screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about CPU power for Flash, H.263 should be decoded on the specialaized  processor, so Ghz power is not needed</p>
<p>i think tablet is the next step (i mean form factor like Kohjinsha SC3). I&#8217;m not sure about the $200, but we have eee pc 900 for $310 in Moscow now, so why cannot we have tablet for a bit bigger price?</p>
<p>the key moment i think is a virtual keyboard  &#8211; i think it&#8217;s a mobile future for 5&#8243; devices (because of the economy on the weight and thickness), but maybe for bigger screens too. iPhone showed that virtual keyboard can be pretty useful on 3,5&#8243; screen. I&#8217;m sure that enough fast typing is possible on 7&#8243; and more screen.</p>
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		<title>By: chippy</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/techcrunch-trys-to-prep-some-ground-for-their-mid/#comment-13939</link>
		<dc:creator>chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly. Netbooks have limitations but there are millions of people that are happy with them.

I wonder if the TechCrunch tablet will follow a similar path to the pro-mobile UMPC and remain as a niche device. Loved, but not mainstream.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. Netbooks have limitations but there are millions of people that are happy with them.</p>
<p>I wonder if the TechCrunch tablet will follow a similar path to the pro-mobile UMPC and remain as a niche device. Loved, but not mainstream.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: JLM</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/techcrunch-trys-to-prep-some-ground-for-their-mid/#comment-13938</link>
		<dc:creator>JLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is that guy (Michael Arrington)?
Netbooks have problems, but they are great equipment for (mobile)work.
I think this man is... wrong...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is that guy (Michael Arrington)?<br />
Netbooks have problems, but they are great equipment for (mobile)work.<br />
I think this man is&#8230; wrong&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jkkmobile</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/techcrunch-trys-to-prep-some-ground-for-their-mid/#comment-13936</link>
		<dc:creator>jkkmobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His post actually takes away any credibility he had. 

If he was smart enough he should be saying how good netbooks are.. and then say he can make even better product with his web tablet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His post actually takes away any credibility he had. </p>
<p>If he was smart enough he should be saying how good netbooks are.. and then say he can make even better product with his web tablet.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Feger</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/techcrunch-trys-to-prep-some-ground-for-their-mid/#comment-13932</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Feger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;deliberately trying to mislead people.&quot;  Ouch.  A touch harsh, don&#039;t you think?  Misleading would be the case if he *didn&#039;t* address their own web tablet effort.  But he clearly does.  Again, these are two completely different segments.

I will agree with you on the AMD response from a short while ago.  They simply don&#039;t have the architectural capability to compete in this market right now.  I doubt they would avoid a market opportunity by choice.  After all, they&#039;re selling chips, not final devices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;deliberately trying to mislead people.&#8221;  Ouch.  A touch harsh, don&#8217;t you think?  Misleading would be the case if he *didn&#8217;t* address their own web tablet effort.  But he clearly does.  Again, these are two completely different segments.</p>
<p>I will agree with you on the AMD response from a short while ago.  They simply don&#8217;t have the architectural capability to compete in this market right now.  I doubt they would avoid a market opportunity by choice.  After all, they&#8217;re selling chips, not final devices.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Feger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Feger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think I&#039;ll retract one thing I said.  The discussion doesn&#039;t speak far more to the wide ranging definition of a MID.

I think it speaks to the fact that most people (consumers) don&#039;t know these definitions exist, period.  They don&#039;t know what a MID is and they don&#039;t know what a netbook is.  They never knew what a UMPC was, for example.

In my opinion, people only understand things that differ a relatively small degree from what they understood in the past.  Chippy made this argument quite a while ago (9-12 months ago maybe) when he noted that most of the devices that were coming out included keyboards.  Why?  Because the overall market understands it better.  They understand a notebook, so they&#039;ll understand a netbook.  A web tablet will have a heck of a time convincing people because they&#039;re going to look at this thing and think, what is it?  A big iPod Touch?

It should be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think I&#8217;ll retract one thing I said.  The discussion doesn&#8217;t speak far more to the wide ranging definition of a MID.</p>
<p>I think it speaks to the fact that most people (consumers) don&#8217;t know these definitions exist, period.  They don&#8217;t know what a MID is and they don&#8217;t know what a netbook is.  They never knew what a UMPC was, for example.</p>
<p>In my opinion, people only understand things that differ a relatively small degree from what they understood in the past.  Chippy made this argument quite a while ago (9-12 months ago maybe) when he noted that most of the devices that were coming out included keyboards.  Why?  Because the overall market understands it better.  They understand a notebook, so they&#8217;ll understand a netbook.  A web tablet will have a heck of a time convincing people because they&#8217;re going to look at this thing and think, what is it?  A big iPod Touch?</p>
<p>It should be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Doubery</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/techcrunch-trys-to-prep-some-ground-for-their-mid/#comment-13930</link>
		<dc:creator>Doubery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i doubt he&#039;s badly educated on the subject. his opinion is just tainted by his own special interests, so he is deliberately trying to mislead people.

much like the AMD guy did a few months back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i doubt he&#8217;s badly educated on the subject. his opinion is just tainted by his own special interests, so he is deliberately trying to mislead people.</p>
<p>much like the AMD guy did a few months back.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Feger</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/11/techcrunch-trys-to-prep-some-ground-for-their-mid/#comment-13929</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Feger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While TechCrunch&#039;s article may appear off base, I do have to agree with it.

Their effort at creating a web tablet and their comments on netbooks speak to two different segments.

Netbooks have placed themselves as mini-notebooks.  Nothing more.  I own an MSI Wind, I know what it does well and what it doesn&#039;t.  Better than 80% of it is run-of-the-mill laptop.  The 20% that is unique relates to configurability (Mac OS), size and battery life.  Recent comments by Intel VP Stu Pann buttress this claim:  &quot;If you&#039;ve ever used a Netbook and used a 10-inch screen size--it&#039;s fine for an hour. It&#039;s not something you&#039;re going to use day in and day out.&quot;  You know what?  I agree with that comment.  I don&#039;t tend to use mine for more than an hour at a time.  I use my X60 laptop if I need more than that (like right now).

A web-tablet is a much different device.  Most especially in their need for an improved user interface since it will lack your standard keyboard/mouse input.

I don&#039;t know if TechCrunch&#039;s effort at creating a web tablet will result in much success.  Maybe yes, maybe no.  There are no real comparative devices right now (slates under $500).  But I look forward to seeing what might actually happen.  It certainly can&#039;t hurt.

Personally, I think this discussion speaks far more to the wide ranging definition of a MID than anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While TechCrunch&#8217;s article may appear off base, I do have to agree with it.</p>
<p>Their effort at creating a web tablet and their comments on netbooks speak to two different segments.</p>
<p>Netbooks have placed themselves as mini-notebooks.  Nothing more.  I own an MSI Wind, I know what it does well and what it doesn&#8217;t.  Better than 80% of it is run-of-the-mill laptop.  The 20% that is unique relates to configurability (Mac OS), size and battery life.  Recent comments by Intel VP Stu Pann buttress this claim:  &#8220;If you&#8217;ve ever used a Netbook and used a 10-inch screen size&#8211;it&#8217;s fine for an hour. It&#8217;s not something you&#8217;re going to use day in and day out.&#8221;  You know what?  I agree with that comment.  I don&#8217;t tend to use mine for more than an hour at a time.  I use my X60 laptop if I need more than that (like right now).</p>
<p>A web-tablet is a much different device.  Most especially in their need for an improved user interface since it will lack your standard keyboard/mouse input.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if TechCrunch&#8217;s effort at creating a web tablet will result in much success.  Maybe yes, maybe no.  There are no real comparative devices right now (slates under $500).  But I look forward to seeing what might actually happen.  It certainly can&#8217;t hurt.</p>
<p>Personally, I think this discussion speaks far more to the wide ranging definition of a MID than anything else.</p>
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