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	<title>Comments on: Hilarious. Engadget hates/likes UMPCs!</title>
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		<title>By: EC</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/01/hilarious-engadget-hateslikes-umpcs/comment-page-1/#comment-16835</link>
		<dc:creator>EC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 02:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3rd, though I end up having 2 or 3 pocketable devices my dream is to have ONE, or perhaps two, depends (where the 2nd one would be a simple phone).</description>
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		<title>By: EC</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/01/hilarious-engadget-hateslikes-umpcs/comment-page-1/#comment-16806</link>
		<dc:creator>EC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well since I don&#039;t consider myself a fanboy and I have def &quot;been there done that&quot; with mostly MS OS&#039; uptill just recently (kind of like Chris Pirillo if you&#039;ve heard of him?) I believe I can reply to this. 

The myth that Macs are &quot;so overpriced&quot; might have been true at some point, and I will give you that I have never bought an Apple monitor or extra RAM from them due to the overpricing but generally speaking it&#039;s not so for the most part any more. Not only for what you get but also by looking at what you pay for SW, since SW designed for Macs, will so to speak bring money indirectly or directly to Apple when sold, they are able to sell the SW at better prices.

Let&#039;s just take a real life example:

MS Office for PCs
Small bus/pr0 $449/$499

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/FX101211561033.aspx

MS Office for Mac
$399.95
http://store.apple.com/us/product/TQ744LL/A

Yes the Home&amp;Student edition is the same right now (wasn&#039;t before) and obviously MS SW isn&#039;t the ideal example as obviously it&#039;s in MS&#039; interest to make their NON MAC SW competitive with what&#039;s available for the Mac. Bottom line is while it bothered me in the past when I had to buy SW for my PC (the price it is) now I have to confess I&#039;m pleasantly surprised at the pricing. No I am NOT saying that prices are a &quot;deal&quot; SW never is, well ok aside from things like OpenOffice :)

The fact however that I have spent $0 on any firewall/spam/virus protection which I didn&#039;t only spend a huge amount of money on before but had to worry like an idiot is in my book &quot;priceless&quot;, so am I now an MS hater, NO, I&#039;m typing this on my EEE with XP, and I run XP under OS X w/VMWare, OS X on the left and XP on the right 24&quot; Dell monitor, yes no Apple monitors here, due to price I got TWO Dell 24&quot; monitors for less than ONE 24&quot; from Apple, so yes one needs to &quot;look out&quot;.

&gt;May be there is a reason why PCs have 90% market share and Microsoft had to &gt;bail out Apple in 90s.

Well lets not compare Oranges and Apples (pun intended) here, since one is a SOFTWARE company (now more recently with the exception of a few hardware products) and the other mainly makes computers along with the OS. This would be like saying &quot;Hey look at the OIL COMPANIES they are doing great but the US automotive industry has to be bailed out&quot; :) 

So one can&#039;t really compare the two side-by-side as such, and frankly NOT ALWAYS is the fact that a company isn&#039;t doing great a sign of poor service/product, take OQO and even worse off Flipstart neither have any huge success numbers as such, one is gone (from the UMPC market (for now?)) the other is barely known within the computer world, poor products? NO just certain things have not helped them, timing, technology not at the level to support the platform fully etc etc etc.

&gt;Macs and Ipods in my opinon are overpriced and will never reach to masses &gt;likes PCs have

Al is that you hiding behind &quot;AP&quot; instead of &quot;AL&quot; :), the wording is starting to sound so familiar &quot;opinon&quot; and &quot;masses&quot;, not to mention the strongly opinionated not backed up with but rather ignoring of factual evidence :)

&gt;By the way you can drool over something you have…

OH, so what do YOU drool over? 

&gt;Which something the MacFan boys tend to do even they own it.

The derogatory comments about individuals that think differently (pun intended) than yourself does bring the alias &quot;AL&quot; to mind once again :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well since I don&#8217;t consider myself a fanboy and I have def &#8220;been there done that&#8221; with mostly MS OS&#8217; uptill just recently (kind of like Chris Pirillo if you&#8217;ve heard of him?) I believe I can reply to this. </p>
<p>The myth that Macs are &#8220;so overpriced&#8221; might have been true at some point, and I will give you that I have never bought an Apple monitor or extra RAM from them due to the overpricing but generally speaking it&#8217;s not so for the most part any more. Not only for what you get but also by looking at what you pay for SW, since SW designed for Macs, will so to speak bring money indirectly or directly to Apple when sold, they are able to sell the SW at better prices.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just take a real life example:</p>
<p>MS Office for PCs<br />
Small bus/pr0 $449/$499</p>
<p><a href="http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/FX101211561033.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/FX101211561033.aspx</a></p>
<p>MS Office for Mac<br />
$399.95<br />
<a href="http://store.apple.com/us/product/TQ744LL/A" rel="nofollow">http://store.apple.com/us/product/TQ744LL/A</a></p>
<p>Yes the Home&amp;Student edition is the same right now (wasn&#8217;t before) and obviously MS SW isn&#8217;t the ideal example as obviously it&#8217;s in MS&#8217; interest to make their NON MAC SW competitive with what&#8217;s available for the Mac. Bottom line is while it bothered me in the past when I had to buy SW for my PC (the price it is) now I have to confess I&#8217;m pleasantly surprised at the pricing. No I am NOT saying that prices are a &#8220;deal&#8221; SW never is, well ok aside from things like OpenOffice <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The fact however that I have spent $0 on any firewall/spam/virus protection which I didn&#8217;t only spend a huge amount of money on before but had to worry like an idiot is in my book &#8220;priceless&#8221;, so am I now an MS hater, NO, I&#8217;m typing this on my EEE with XP, and I run XP under OS X w/VMWare, OS X on the left and XP on the right 24&#8243; Dell monitor, yes no Apple monitors here, due to price I got TWO Dell 24&#8243; monitors for less than ONE 24&#8243; from Apple, so yes one needs to &#8220;look out&#8221;.</p>
<p>&gt;May be there is a reason why PCs have 90% market share and Microsoft had to &gt;bail out Apple in 90s.</p>
<p>Well lets not compare Oranges and Apples (pun intended) here, since one is a SOFTWARE company (now more recently with the exception of a few hardware products) and the other mainly makes computers along with the OS. This would be like saying &#8220;Hey look at the OIL COMPANIES they are doing great but the US automotive industry has to be bailed out&#8221; <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>So one can&#8217;t really compare the two side-by-side as such, and frankly NOT ALWAYS is the fact that a company isn&#8217;t doing great a sign of poor service/product, take OQO and even worse off Flipstart neither have any huge success numbers as such, one is gone (from the UMPC market (for now?)) the other is barely known within the computer world, poor products? NO just certain things have not helped them, timing, technology not at the level to support the platform fully etc etc etc.</p>
<p>&gt;Macs and Ipods in my opinon are overpriced and will never reach to masses &gt;likes PCs have</p>
<p>Al is that you hiding behind &#8220;AP&#8221; instead of &#8220;AL&#8221; <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> , the wording is starting to sound so familiar &#8220;opinon&#8221; and &#8220;masses&#8221;, not to mention the strongly opinionated not backed up with but rather ignoring of factual evidence <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&gt;By the way you can drool over something you have…</p>
<p>OH, so what do YOU drool over? </p>
<p>&gt;Which something the MacFan boys tend to do even they own it.</p>
<p>The derogatory comments about individuals that think differently (pun intended) than yourself does bring the alias &#8220;AL&#8221; to mind once again <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: AP</title>
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		<dc:creator>AP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people cannot afford Macs as they are so overpriced.  May be there is a reason why PCs have 90% market share and Microsoft had to bail out Apple in 90s. Iphone, Macs and Ipods in my opinon are overpriced and will never reach to masses likes PCs have.

By the way you can drool over something you have...Which something the MacFan boys tend to do even they own it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people cannot afford Macs as they are so overpriced.  May be there is a reason why PCs have 90% market share and Microsoft had to bail out Apple in 90s. Iphone, Macs and Ipods in my opinon are overpriced and will never reach to masses likes PCs have.</p>
<p>By the way you can drool over something you have&#8230;Which something the MacFan boys tend to do even they own it.</p>
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		<title>By: EC</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/01/hilarious-engadget-hateslikes-umpcs/comment-page-1/#comment-16799</link>
		<dc:creator>EC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drool you do over something you don&#039;t/can&#039;t have right?

So the important (to Apple) would be the millions who would actually buy it, with numbers like &quot;6.9 million iPhones, 2.6 million Macs, and 11 million iPods&quot; sold during Q3 of 2008 from what I gather. Also more than 10 million iPhones in 2008, so yes I wouldn&#039;t mind an iPhone with keyboard and full OS, or as you say an MID :)

http://gizmodo.com/5066543/apple-quarterly-earnings-69-million-iphones-sold-more-phones-than-rim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drool you do over something you don&#8217;t/can&#8217;t have right?</p>
<p>So the important (to Apple) would be the millions who would actually buy it, with numbers like &#8220;6.9 million iPhones, 2.6 million Macs, and 11 million iPods&#8221; sold during Q3 of 2008 from what I gather. Also more than 10 million iPhones in 2008, so yes I wouldn&#8217;t mind an iPhone with keyboard and full OS, or as you say an MID <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://gizmodo.com/5066543/apple-quarterly-earnings-69-million-iphones-sold-more-phones-than-rim" rel="nofollow">http://gizmodo.com/5066543/apple-quarterly-earnings-69-million-iphones-sold-more-phones-than-rim</a></p>
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		<title>By: AP</title>
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		<dc:creator>AP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Apple ever makes an MID or handheld the MacFan boys at Endgaget and Gizmodo will be drooling over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Apple ever makes an MID or handheld the MacFan boys at Endgaget and Gizmodo will be drooling over it.</p>
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		<title>By: SkratchBoard.com</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/01/hilarious-engadget-hateslikes-umpcs/comment-page-1/#comment-16784</link>
		<dc:creator>SkratchBoard.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We think the S7 is totally hot. We have been wondering what would be our &quot;3rd device&quot;, and the S7 comes pretty close to it. There are still a few things that we&#039;d like to see it improve. We just blogged about it at http://www.skratchboard.com/?p=353#more-353.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We think the S7 is totally hot. We have been wondering what would be our &#8220;3rd device&#8221;, and the S7 comes pretty close to it. There are still a few things that we&#8217;d like to see it improve. We just blogged about it at <a href="http://www.skratchboard.com/?p=353#more-353" rel="nofollow">http://www.skratchboard.com/?p=353#more-353</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Claim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was shown at CES. The launcher is very unique on top of Windows XP. 
www.myviliv.com 
There is launcher flash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was shown at CES. The launcher is very unique on top of Windows XP.<br />
<a href="http://www.myviliv.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.myviliv.com</a><br />
There is launcher flash.</p>
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		<title>By: EC</title>
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		<dc:creator>EC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Cheap&quot; isn&#039;t that what made the Netbooks create such a BOOM? 

I think we NEED/WANT more like that to attract more attention to the UMPC sector, just look at where the Netbooks are now in sales and price, all(?) thanks to rather cheap EEE 701s (no?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cheap&#8221; isn&#8217;t that what made the Netbooks create such a BOOM? </p>
<p>I think we NEED/WANT more like that to attract more attention to the UMPC sector, just look at where the Netbooks are now in sales and price, all(?) thanks to rather cheap EEE 701s (no?)</p>
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		<title>By: proroadie</title>
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		<dc:creator>proroadie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>function over form. 5&quot; 16x9 sub 1&quot;thick with 8MP cam, 3MP facecam, 3G/CDMA/EV-DO, GPS, Wifi, tooth2.0+, Haptic Multi-touch, MicroSD, Android.. Northrup Grumman or GenDynamics can whip this up in a year, 6 months ago. The market is there, just waiting around... still waiting... into 2010...sigh...so disappointed with this market...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>function over form. 5&#8243; 16&#215;9 sub 1&#8243;thick with 8MP cam, 3MP facecam, 3G/CDMA/EV-DO, GPS, Wifi, tooth2.0+, Haptic Multi-touch, MicroSD, Android.. Northrup Grumman or GenDynamics can whip this up in a year, 6 months ago. The market is there, just waiting around&#8230; still waiting&#8230; into 2010&#8230;sigh&#8230;so disappointed with this market&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No anger here. Just laughing and mickey-taking at the mis-match.</description>
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		<title>By: bkos</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/01/hilarious-engadget-hateslikes-umpcs/comment-page-1/#comment-16617</link>
		<dc:creator>bkos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why all this anger towards engadget?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why all this anger towards engadget?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were the articles written by the same author?  Because there can be a bit of opinion difference between the different Engadget authors.</description>
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		<title>By: zorg</title>
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		<dc:creator>zorg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you mean &quot;susceptable&quot; [sic]?  Good design is worth money.  Beautiful things work better.</description>
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		<title>By: zak</title>
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		<dc:creator>zak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah , first one looks rubbish also has via c7. this one looks good in the render.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah , first one looks rubbish also has via c7. this one looks good in the render.</p>
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		<title>By: Eraserhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eraserhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>doesn&#039;t the first line say it all &quot;Maybe we’re just hot for sleek, thin, ultra sexy renders of handheld computing devices&quot;

This device looks really good and sleek, and the other one looks like ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>doesn&#8217;t the first line say it all &#8220;Maybe we’re just hot for sleek, thin, ultra sexy renders of handheld computing devices&#8221;</p>
<p>This device looks really good and sleek, and the other one looks like ass.</p>
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