Comments on: Looking forward to a Palm Pre Family

By: reverendo

reverendo — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:57:58 +0000

Chippy
were you dreaming when you mentioned a Palm Pre-Pro or is it something that will be coming. 4” with Pro-mobile stuff would be lovely on the Pro
give me some feedback, please
hope hearing from you

André

By: TareX

TareX — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 05:59:04 +0000

Well I think it’s understood that I meant a Tegra-equipped phone vs a Pre. I’m not talking about the Pre’s amazing processor, I’m comparing the UI experience as a whole. Tegra looks fantastic and is suoer capable, but Pre is functional in a way I have never imagined a phone could be. Synergy, Automated Search, UI… brilliant. But then again, seeing how gaming looks on the iPhone, I cannot start to imagine how brilliant it would be on a Tegra phone.

By: roninja

roninja — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:52:05 +0000

Tegra v Pre – how do you compare a chipset (SoC) and a Phone? The comparison has to be Tegra xxx v OMAP 3430 in this instance. Not sure who wins here but given the success of PowerVR SGX in the embedded arena I am guessing its the later.

By: Mike Cane

Mike Cane — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:53:43 +0000

Nice analysis except for this bit:

>>>the application suite won’t be as rich as it is for Linux-based

Huh? What?

1) Not all Linux can have 3rd-party apps added (just ask Wayne MacPhail!)
http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/linux-the-best-reason-for-windows-xp/

2) Linux is for geeks
http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/10/22/wayne-macphails-linux-vindication/

3) I haven’t yet seen anyone rave about how installing Linux apps approaches the click-click-click ease of even Windows installers

It’ll be interesting to see if your power calculations work out as you state. I know you’re an expert at that. At least you give a realistic estimate versus that ridiculous article Ars Technica just ran, which was on the level of John Dvorak:
http://mikecane.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/i-call-this-bullshit/

Ah, so many links. Bound to wind up in your spam folder now.

By: Mike Cane

Mike Cane — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:49:15 +0000

Looking forward to a Palm Pre Family http://tinyurl.com/cllk8z

By: Cajun_Mike

Cajun_Mike — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:38:49 +0000

Good stuff Chippy. As a subscriber to sprint for more than a decade I am happy to finally see that we’re getting a much desired phone first. I’m currently using a Blackberry 8830 and very happy with it but when I’m in a pinch and need to hit the web, it’s lacking.

So, my 2009 purchases are two.. Palm Pre (already on waiting list with my sprint business contact) and a UMID M1.

By: Chippy

Chippy — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:02:47 +0000

On power consumption I guess they will have the advantage for 2009 and most of 2010. The problem is that only the highest end ARM processors are reaching acceptable broswing and rendering speeds and as web pages get more complex, Intel will keep the advantage there. The 1.3Ghz Atom is a real gem for internet browsing.

Steve

By: Sam

Sam — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:59:58 +0000

ARM CPU’s could beat Intel for some time to come on power consumption. Cheaper + longer battery life is a big plus.

Can’t wait to see something with the Zii processor too.

By: Chippy

Chippy — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:41:35 +0000

Yup. 2W is based on my experience and tests. THe Core will run to about 800mw I think. Add the radios and dc/dc and screen and you’re in the 2W range. Ti Estiamte they can get a MID down to average 1W and a netbook to 4W with OMAP.
2W is an active-internet scenario.
Steve.

By: turn.self.off

turn.self.off — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:30:35 +0000

im not sure where you got that 2W on page downloads, chippy.

i ran into a estimate that the omap 3430 would draw less at load then the current atom draws at idle. but sadly i cant find that page right now

are you assuming a high W from the 3G or wifi radio?

By: TareX

TareX — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:22:12 +0000

It’s a Pre vs Tegra showdown for me, in Barcelona. Pre’s strongest point seems to be Synergy (all contacts, all emails, all calenders, facebook…. brought together) and the vertical qwerty form factor.

Tegra’s stongest point is the super fantastic brilliant 3D graphical UI capabilities.