Comments on: Falling for Quality in Texas http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/falling-for-quality-in-texas/ portable pc, mobile computer, pocket pc and handheld computing Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:29:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chippy http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/falling-for-quality-in-texas/#comment-19536 Chippy Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:56:13 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=6266#comment-19536 It depends what you define as productivity. The S5 is focuse on consumption of internet and media. It also serves as a superb carpc. With Streetdeck it's superb but if you want to input data, obviously the U2010 and UMID are easier because of keyboard. I tend to input a lot of data in 'micro' format. Twitter, short blogs, photo tagging, emails and that works very well with U2010. S It depends what you define as productivity. The S5 is focuse on consumption of internet and media. It also serves as a superb carpc. With Streetdeck it’s superb but if you want to input data, obviously the U2010 and UMID are easier because of keyboard. I tend to input a lot of data in ‘micro’ format. Twitter, short blogs, photo tagging, emails and that works very well with U2010.

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]]> By: suchus http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/falling-for-quality-in-texas/#comment-19463 suchus Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:10:53 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=6266#comment-19463 Does your preference for the U820 indicate that the Viliv S5 is crap when it comes to productivity? Does your preference for the U820 indicate that the Viliv S5 is crap when it comes to productivity?

]]> By: Chippy http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/falling-for-quality-in-texas/#comment-19461 Chippy Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:36:11 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=6266#comment-19461 3 days later..... Still loving the U820. Using it for short posts only of course. Vista would have to go in my opinion but its extremely well designed for both normal and tablet use. Im still thinking about buying it! Steve 3 days later…..

Still loving the U820. Using it for short posts only of course.
Vista would have to go in my opinion but its extremely well designed for both normal and tablet use. Im still thinking about buying it!

Steve

]]> By: ArchiMark http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/falling-for-quality-in-texas/#comment-19455 ArchiMark Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:41:47 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=6266#comment-19455 FWIW, I got the U820 recently (from one of the posters above... ;-) ) and having had a U810 about a year ago briefly, I find that the U820 is much improved; keyboard and performance-wise.... All in all, they are a very nice piece of very portable (but not quite pocketable) hardware.... FWIW, I got the U820 recently (from one of the posters above… ;-) ) and having had a U810 about a year ago briefly, I find that the U820 is much improved; keyboard and performance-wise….

All in all, they are a very nice piece of very portable (but not quite pocketable) hardware….

]]> By: ArchiMark http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/falling-for-quality-in-texas/#comment-19454 ArchiMark Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:38:35 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=6266#comment-19454 AFAIK, the U820 is the US market version... AFAIK, the U820 is the US market version…

]]> By: papinymph http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/falling-for-quality-in-texas/#comment-19443 papinymph Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:15:12 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=6266#comment-19443 Chippy, I see that you substituted that bluetooth? Samsumg keyboard for that of the u820? (Photo stream pic where you said "time of bed")... Ultimately when you have a big write up... none of them come close to the comforts of using a regular sized lappie. Thats where my macbook comes in, like I'd never write a 10page sysnopsis on a u820 but I'll write up little posts... Chippy, I see that you substituted that bluetooth? Samsumg keyboard for that of the u820? (Photo stream pic where you said “time of bed”)… Ultimately when you have a big write up… none of them come close to the comforts of using a regular sized lappie. Thats where my macbook comes in, like I’d never write a 10page sysnopsis on a u820 but I’ll write up little posts…

]]> By: FrozenIpaq http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/falling-for-quality-in-texas/#comment-19438 FrozenIpaq Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:07:11 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=6266#comment-19438 I've been following the UMPC/MID world for quite some time and feel that something like the viliv S5 wasn't meant for typing so I'm not surprised the keyboard doesn't suit your needs. In my personal opinion you should not be typing lengthy posts on a UMPC (it's just not what it was designed for unless you buy an external usb keyboard - there are some nice small ones out there for this purpose). UMPCs were meant to do small tasks on-the-go, not full word/documenting tasks like our daily PCs are for. If I were to buy a UMPC (I would love the S5, but frankly I can't afford it as I'm a college student in the states), I would use it mainly to watch videos, browse the internet (make small posts) and view documents. Although I'm waiting until we see more performance increases in these guys before purchasing because I love to multitask (as of right now I have Firefox open, Apex DC++ for file sharing on my local school network, two word documents and a powerpoint) - all just for school tasks. Overall the S5 has outstanding battery life compared to the competitors and a decent resolution screen and specs. I would suggest buying a foldout keyboard/bluetooth and use that (will give you more room than the Fujitsu and you won't be sacrificing much battery life as a result). Keep up the good work on this blog :) I’ve been following the UMPC/MID world for quite some time and feel that something like the viliv S5 wasn’t meant for typing so I’m not surprised the keyboard doesn’t suit your needs. In my personal opinion you should not be typing lengthy posts on a UMPC (it’s just not what it was designed for unless you buy an external usb keyboard – there are some nice small ones out there for this purpose). UMPCs were meant to do small tasks on-the-go, not full word/documenting tasks like our daily PCs are for.

If I were to buy a UMPC (I would love the S5, but frankly I can’t afford it as I’m a college student in the states), I would use it mainly to watch videos, browse the internet (make small posts) and view documents. Although I’m waiting until we see more performance increases in these guys before purchasing because I love to multitask (as of right now I have Firefox open, Apex DC++ for file sharing on my local school network, two word documents and a powerpoint) – all just for school tasks.

Overall the S5 has outstanding battery life compared to the competitors and a decent resolution screen and specs. I would suggest buying a foldout keyboard/bluetooth and use that (will give you more room than the Fujitsu and you won’t be sacrificing much battery life as a result). Keep up the good work on this blog :)

]]> By: sean http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/falling-for-quality-in-texas/#comment-19437 sean Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:00:47 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=6266#comment-19437 holy crap 700 bucks? that's crazy. I owned the 810 and liked the size but the keyboard layout was AWFUL. You had to use the function key to use arrows, fn+space was tab, it was very poorly thoughtout. I don't do an excessive amount of video editing or anything like that, so the 800mhz at the time was fine, I had Tablet XP on it and it was very nice. I believe the keyboard mappings are much better with the u820, and I've been looking for one at a decent price, but in my neck of the woods everything is still VERY expensive. Definintely NOT 700 bucks. I'd like to get that deal on one of those. . . Overall, the machine was great EXCEPT for typing. A bluetooth KB is necessary for long hours. holy crap 700 bucks? that’s crazy.

I owned the 810 and liked the size but the keyboard layout was AWFUL. You had to use the function key to use arrows, fn+space was tab, it was very poorly thoughtout.
I don’t do an excessive amount of video editing or anything like that, so the 800mhz at the time was fine, I had Tablet XP on it and it was very nice.

I believe the keyboard mappings are much better with the u820, and I’ve been looking for one at a decent price, but in my neck of the woods everything is still VERY expensive. Definintely NOT 700 bucks. I’d like to get that deal on one of those. . .

Overall, the machine was great EXCEPT for typing. A bluetooth KB is necessary for long hours.

]]> By: DavidC1 http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/falling-for-quality-in-texas/#comment-19435 DavidC1 Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:40:11 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=6266#comment-19435 One reasons Netbooks got popular is because of its pricing more than other. I'd assume the companies sell more expensive overseas. With current currency conversion rate the Viliv S5 pricing should be $360-$450 USD. And for people like me where battery life is a big factor there's no device like it. See the keyboard is something that I can make up for(i plan to buy a foldable one for extended usage) but I can't do that with battery life and portability. One reasons Netbooks got popular is because of its pricing more than other.

I’d assume the companies sell more expensive overseas. With current currency conversion rate the Viliv S5 pricing should be $360-$450 USD.

And for people like me where battery life is a big factor there’s no device like it.

See the keyboard is something that I can make up for(i plan to buy a foldable one for extended usage) but I can’t do that with battery life and portability.

]]> By: Duwenbasden http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/falling-for-quality-in-texas/#comment-19430 Duwenbasden Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:06:32 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=6266#comment-19430 The good: A word of wisdom -- Use it like a DS. Seriously, if you hold it like one, you will love the device. Everything falls exactly in the right place -- the mouse pointer under your right thumb, buttons on your left. The screen is very usable once you set the DPI to 120. The pixel density is great for 720p videos -- it is doable under Media player classic with CoreAVC. As for the battery life, I can't get you the numbers on the 2 cells but on the 4 cell, I reached ~10 hours on everything off power saver mode, and 7 hours with ALL wireless on (There seems to be no settings to change what you can turn on/off). The wireless card is a battery drain, so yes, turn it off if you can. I didn't care about the Fingerprint reader at first on Vista because it is a hassle to use it. On Windows 7 though, I have grown accustomed to it since Windows 7 has native swiping support. For security I always lock my computers, so this is just a convenience (no fumbling to login while traveling). The meh: The AC adapter -- it is 2/3 size of my M1210's adapter. It is okay, but I'd like it a bit smaller (Eee Adapter size) The GPS is kind of a downside. It works great when it works, but it takes forever to locate satellites when the signal is even a bit weak. The 6 month reinstallation timeout from Garmin is also a very annoying. ---------------------------------------------- On a sidenote, I will love to try out the Viliv S5. I would have bought one if they actually do something to release it earlier (It was announced last year!) >:( It is smaller than the U820 (pocket power) and have good battery life. The good:

A word of wisdom — Use it like a DS. Seriously, if you hold it like one, you will love the device. Everything falls exactly in the right place — the mouse pointer under your right thumb, buttons on your left. The screen is very usable once you set the DPI to 120. The pixel density is great for 720p videos — it is doable under Media player classic with CoreAVC.

As for the battery life, I can’t get you the numbers on the 2 cells but on the 4 cell, I reached ~10 hours on everything off power saver mode, and 7 hours with ALL wireless on (There seems to be no settings to change what you can turn on/off). The wireless card is a battery drain, so yes, turn it off if you can.

I didn’t care about the Fingerprint reader at first on Vista because it is a hassle to use it. On Windows 7 though, I have grown accustomed to it since Windows 7 has native swiping support. For security I always lock my computers, so this is just a convenience (no fumbling to login while traveling).

The meh:

The AC adapter — it is 2/3 size of my M1210′s adapter. It is okay, but I’d like it a bit smaller (Eee Adapter size)

The GPS is kind of a downside. It works great when it works, but it takes forever to locate satellites when the signal is even a bit weak. The 6 month reinstallation timeout from Garmin is also a very annoying.

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On a sidenote, I will love to try out the Viliv S5. I would have bought one if they actually do something to release it earlier (It was announced last year!) >:( It is smaller than the U820 (pocket power) and have good battery life.

]]> By: jino http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/falling-for-quality-in-texas/#comment-19426 jino Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:56:33 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=6266#comment-19426 try the r50, you'll luv it. i have it on Win7.....bright screen, great 1024x600 res. good speaker sound & fine video playback. the best 'pocketable' umpc out there right now. i dont know why this little kb-less miracle got such a bad rap in the first place. Chippy ???.... :) try the r50, you’ll luv it. i have it on Win7…..bright screen, great 1024×600 res. good speaker sound & fine video playback. the best ‘pocketable’ umpc out there right now. i dont know why this little kb-less miracle got such a bad rap in the first place. Chippy ???…. :)

]]> By: Tokyorob http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/falling-for-quality-in-texas/#comment-19422 Tokyorob Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:42:32 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=6266#comment-19422 Not in Tokyo they aren't I can pick up almost mint boxed U/B50N for 68,500 JPY (about 685 USD) Not in Tokyo they aren’t I can pick up almost mint boxed U/B50N for 68,500 JPY (about 685 USD)

]]> By: pradyut http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/falling-for-quality-in-texas/#comment-19419 pradyut Tue, 17 Mar 2009 02:21:25 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=6266#comment-19419 Hey Chippy....Been following your work for quite some time now. Great job! In your opinion, how does the Fujitsu compare with OQO 2+? They both seem to have fast processors, similar price range, similar build quality and seem to be in the same UMPC product category. I saw a video yesterday on MID Moves where Nicole found people just loving OQO 2+. As a person who has used both devices, what is your opinion? Hey Chippy….Been following your work for quite some time now. Great job!

In your opinion, how does the Fujitsu compare with OQO 2+? They both seem to have fast processors, similar price range, similar build quality and seem to be in the same UMPC product category. I saw a video yesterday on MID Moves where Nicole found people just loving OQO 2+. As a person who has used both devices, what is your opinion?

]]> By: C http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/falling-for-quality-in-texas/#comment-19394 C Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:35:13 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=6266#comment-19394 I love my u820. I enjoy the higher resolution screen and still practical keyboard. The battery life is great with the z530 (same CPU as the MSI Wind U110 ECO netbook that reportedly runs 9 hours). I get about 5 hours on balanced mode, but I do turn down the screen brightness to about 3/8. It's not perfect but it pretty much does everything I need it to and I use it as my main computer at the moment. After tweaking with Vista and video codecs, it plays 720p acceptably even with some of the more intensive video files. I also like using it as a GPS, but it sometimes has trouble finding the satellites. I don't use it in tablet mode much, but I do like to use it as a handheld. That works fine, but thumb typing can be cumbersome. It's also not exactly "pocketable" unless you have a larger pocket; I occasionally drop it in my large side pant pocket. Other cons are that it only has one USB port and a lot of people cannot read off of the high resolution screen. I guess it's not for everyone so just think about what you need in a computer. I love my u820. I enjoy the higher resolution screen and still practical keyboard. The battery life is great with the z530 (same CPU as the MSI Wind U110 ECO netbook that reportedly runs 9 hours). I get about 5 hours on balanced mode, but I do turn down the screen brightness to about 3/8. It’s not perfect but it pretty much does everything I need it to and I use it as my main computer at the moment. After tweaking with Vista and video codecs, it plays 720p acceptably even with some of the more intensive video files. I also like using it as a GPS, but it sometimes has trouble finding the satellites. I don’t use it in tablet mode much, but I do like to use it as a handheld. That works fine, but thumb typing can be cumbersome. It’s also not exactly “pocketable” unless you have a larger pocket; I occasionally drop it in my large side pant pocket. Other cons are that it only has one USB port and a lot of people cannot read off of the high resolution screen. I guess it’s not for everyone so just think about what you need in a computer.

]]> By: Chippy http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/falling-for-quality-in-texas/#comment-19385 Chippy Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:32:50 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=6266#comment-19385 The Fuji is a true productivity multi-scenraio umpc as youve alluded to. I love the3 thought thats gone into making it as useable as possible. Thanks for the feedback Alex. The Fuji is a true productivity multi-scenraio umpc as youve alluded to. I love the3 thought thats gone into making it as useable as possible.
Thanks for the feedback Alex.

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