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	<title>Comments on: The Moorestown vision</title>
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		<title>By: anuj kumar</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-moorestown-vision/#comment-33793</link>
		<dc:creator>anuj kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 06:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and plus gamin is like psp so i might be fun 2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and plus gamin is like psp so i might be fun 2</p>
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		<title>By: anuj kumar</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-moorestown-vision/#comment-33792</link>
		<dc:creator>anuj kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 06:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>idk as long as itz beta than iphone.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>idk as long as itz beta than iphone&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: EC</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-moorestown-vision/#comment-19453</link>
		<dc:creator>EC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I know that already watched it full screen on 9&quot; and 24&quot; :)
I was just puzzled by why if it has the button in the embedded info why it won&#039;t work :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I know that already watched it full screen on 9&#8243; and 24&#8243; <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I was just puzzled by why if it has the button in the embedded info why it won&#8217;t work <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-moorestown-vision/#comment-19451</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Full screen is working if you go to the original YouTube page. I know the videos aren&#039;t new, but I wanted to start up a discussion about them as we get closer to the time that Moorestown is supposed to hit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full screen is working if you go to the original YouTube page. I know the videos aren&#8217;t new, but I wanted to start up a discussion about them as we get closer to the time that Moorestown is supposed to hit.</p>
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		<title>By: EC</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-moorestown-vision/#comment-19416</link>
		<dc:creator>EC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where did Intel say that? Since there are several pocketable devices with Intel inside and that are promoted by Intel at their booths, for instance OQO 2+ 
http://www.oqo.com/products/model2+/specifications.html

Compal MIDs (Aigo, M528 etc)


UMID MID even has 1024x600 !

Now I won&#039;t disagree that these resolutions on this 4.8&quot; screens are not the most practical but I have my doubts if Intel would&#039;ve said that since a good portion of the devices they are promoting at their own devices, are just that POCKETABLE and 800x480 or HIGHER!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where did Intel say that? Since there are several pocketable devices with Intel inside and that are promoted by Intel at their booths, for instance OQO 2+<br />
<a href="http://www.oqo.com/products/model2+/specifications.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.oqo.com/products/model2+/specifications.html</a></p>
<p>Compal MIDs (Aigo, M528 etc)</p>
<p>UMID MID even has 1024&#215;600 !</p>
<p>Now I won&#8217;t disagree that these resolutions on this 4.8&#8243; screens are not the most practical but I have my doubts if Intel would&#8217;ve said that since a good portion of the devices they are promoting at their own devices, are just that POCKETABLE and 800&#215;480 or HIGHER!</p>
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		<title>By: EC</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-moorestown-vision/#comment-19415</link>
		<dc:creator>EC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is anyone able to FULL SCREEN those embedded YouTube videos Ben posted?
BTW these are from 2007 :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is anyone able to FULL SCREEN those embedded YouTube videos Ben posted?<br />
BTW these are from 2007 <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DavidC1</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-moorestown-vision/#comment-19407</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidC1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reference Moorestown board is still much smaller than the Menlow board shown on Slashgear. The toradex-robin is 84mm x 55mm and Moorestown reference board is 45mm x 55mm.

And you can&#039;t help but think 3rd party vendors could make it even smaller because the secondary chip for Moorestown is much more compact than the Poulsbo chipset. While the Poulsbo is more than 2x larger than Menlow, Langwell and Lincroft will be similar size to current Menlow chip.

Battery life and heat: Though Poulsbo is the lowest power using Windows compatible chipset out there, it can be even better. It&#039;s at 130nm process technology and with Moorestown, the graphics/memory controller will go into CPU as 45nm. The Langwell I/O chip will probably be using smaller lithography at 90nm or even 65nm.

Performance: The graphics will be upgraded to SGX540 series and Intel presentations put the graphics performance increase at ~50%. On the CPU side, it&#039;ll use the Atom, but using integrated memory controller will help. Pretty much I&#039;d think 20-30% increase per clock is possible at top-end Netbook configuration, and clock speeds are also supposed to increase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reference Moorestown board is still much smaller than the Menlow board shown on Slashgear. The toradex-robin is 84mm x 55mm and Moorestown reference board is 45mm x 55mm.</p>
<p>And you can&#8217;t help but think 3rd party vendors could make it even smaller because the secondary chip for Moorestown is much more compact than the Poulsbo chipset. While the Poulsbo is more than 2x larger than Menlow, Langwell and Lincroft will be similar size to current Menlow chip.</p>
<p>Battery life and heat: Though Poulsbo is the lowest power using Windows compatible chipset out there, it can be even better. It&#8217;s at 130nm process technology and with Moorestown, the graphics/memory controller will go into CPU as 45nm. The Langwell I/O chip will probably be using smaller lithography at 90nm or even 65nm.</p>
<p>Performance: The graphics will be upgraded to SGX540 series and Intel presentations put the graphics performance increase at ~50%. On the CPU side, it&#8217;ll use the Atom, but using integrated memory controller will help. Pretty much I&#8217;d think 20-30% increase per clock is possible at top-end Netbook configuration, and clock speeds are also supposed to increase.</p>
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		<title>By: Techni</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-moorestown-vision/#comment-19373</link>
		<dc:creator>Techni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intel said its not possible to make even 800*480 pocketable. Too hard to see it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intel said its not possible to make even 800*480 pocketable. Too hard to see it</p>
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		<title>By: EC</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-moorestown-vision/#comment-19366</link>
		<dc:creator>EC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Science Fiction loosing the Fiction part:
http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/01/21/treknobabble-50-top-10-star-trek-inventions-in-use-today/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science Fiction loosing the Fiction part:<br />
<a href="http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/01/21/treknobabble-50-top-10-star-trek-inventions-in-use-today/" rel="nofollow">http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/01/21/treknobabble-50-top-10-star-trek-inventions-in-use-today/</a></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-moorestown-vision/#comment-19362</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking more about this one today...

Both this and the Lenovo Pocket Yoga (linked above) are as long as a more traditional phone, making for a slightly more comfortable phone experience for us older types.  But they would be more &quot;jacket inside breast pocket&quot; pocketable than &quot;jeans pocket&quot; pocketable.  I think that might be my one reservation -- I don&#039;t need this device to be my netbook, my netbook needs to be bigger.  But I do want a pocketable to be &quot;pocketable&quot;.  So I&#039;d have to see if this really would fit comfortably in my pants/shorts front pocket.

Though, I wonder if, using the new flexible oled screens, if you could make the Moorestown X fold in half length wise (in either direction), giving you a short touchscreen device or clamshell when closed, and this elongated device when open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking more about this one today&#8230;</p>
<p>Both this and the Lenovo Pocket Yoga (linked above) are as long as a more traditional phone, making for a slightly more comfortable phone experience for us older types.  But they would be more &#8220;jacket inside breast pocket&#8221; pocketable than &#8220;jeans pocket&#8221; pocketable.  I think that might be my one reservation &#8212; I don&#8217;t need this device to be my netbook, my netbook needs to be bigger.  But I do want a pocketable to be &#8220;pocketable&#8221;.  So I&#8217;d have to see if this really would fit comfortably in my pants/shorts front pocket.</p>
<p>Though, I wonder if, using the new flexible oled screens, if you could make the Moorestown X fold in half length wise (in either direction), giving you a short touchscreen device or clamshell when closed, and this elongated device when open.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-moorestown-vision/#comment-19361</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;longer battery life&quot; is an important increase in performance, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;longer battery life&#8221; is an important increase in performance, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-moorestown-vision/#comment-19357</link>
		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There may not be much of an improvement going to Moorestown from Menlow:

Moorestown is unlikely to be smaller.OEMs have already started sampling a credit-card sized motherboard for the Menlow platform: 
http://www.slashgear.com/toradex-robin-atom-cpu-on-credit-card-sized-mainboard-2735953/

Performance is unlikely to increase. The only benefits will be less heat and longer battery-life. But a credit-card sized Menlow-phone will be much cheaper than the Moorestown version and clocked at 800mhz let&#039;s say, it won&#039;t give out much heat anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There may not be much of an improvement going to Moorestown from Menlow:</p>
<p>Moorestown is unlikely to be smaller.OEMs have already started sampling a credit-card sized motherboard for the Menlow platform:<br />
<a href="http://www.slashgear.com/toradex-robin-atom-cpu-on-credit-card-sized-mainboard-2735953/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slashgear.com/toradex-robin-atom-cpu-on-credit-card-sized-mainboard-2735953/</a></p>
<p>Performance is unlikely to increase. The only benefits will be less heat and longer battery-life. But a credit-card sized Menlow-phone will be much cheaper than the Moorestown version and clocked at 800mhz let&#8217;s say, it won&#8217;t give out much heat anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidC1</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-moorestown-vision/#comment-19354</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidC1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll see Moorestown hardware by Q2/Q3 of this year. Every year we&#039;ll see a new platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll see Moorestown hardware by Q2/Q3 of this year. Every year we&#8217;ll see a new platform.</p>
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		<title>By: jquint</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-moorestown-vision/#comment-19353</link>
		<dc:creator>jquint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that the rumored Lenovo Yoga has this form factor.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/16/lenovo-leaks-pocket-yoga-mystery-netbook-pics/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that the rumored Lenovo Yoga has this form factor.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/16/lenovo-leaks-pocket-yoga-mystery-netbook-pics/" rel="nofollow">http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/16/lenovo-leaks-pocket-yoga-mystery-netbook-pics/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-moorestown-vision/#comment-19349</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have too much of an issue with the aspect ratio of the Moorestown X. Standard media aspect ratios might not be the most effective shape for future mobile devices. If they test it and it works work, I&#039;m not going to deny it just because it has a strange aspect ratio. Sure the iPhones 3:2 ratio it strange, but it works well for the OSK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have too much of an issue with the aspect ratio of the Moorestown X. Standard media aspect ratios might not be the most effective shape for future mobile devices. If they test it and it works work, I&#8217;m not going to deny it just because it has a strange aspect ratio. Sure the iPhones 3:2 ratio it strange, but it works well for the OSK.</p>
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