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		<title>By: Patanjali</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-perfect-hinge-strength-for-me-video/#comment-36271</link>
		<dc:creator>Patanjali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After having had to repair three laptop where usage over year has allowed the plastic around the hinges to fatigue and crack, I do like less stiff hinges. These laptops were never treated roughly nor were they ever opened from one side of the lid, which would put even more twisting force on the surrounds of the hinges. Have a close look at the plastic around your laptop hinges and see if there are small cracks there. Another indicator of fatique is if the hinge on one side is sloppier than the other. However, the damage may already have been done before any of these external indicators appear.

The basic problem is that older laptops had heavy lids, so requiring fairly stiff hinges to stop them dropping down under their own weight. That, coupled with under-engineered support for the hinges at the laptop body, means that the force required to operate operate the hinges is transferred to the hinge body interface, and eventually fatigues the plastic and it cracks.

Laptops meant for reliable, long term use will have securely fastoned hinges, which usually adds weight. The Lenovo T43s where I work have striong hinges, but they also weigh 2.3kg - four times the Vaio P.


The first Vaio P, as shown in the video, does slightly lift the body at the start, but doesn&#039;t throughout most of its range. The newer design does not lift the body at all. The Ps have very light screens though, and thus do not need much friction in the hinge anyway.

With the trend to thinner, lighter lids, the need for stiffer hinges will decrease, thus allowing lighter hinge assemblies and anchor points and lower overall laptop weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After having had to repair three laptop where usage over year has allowed the plastic around the hinges to fatigue and crack, I do like less stiff hinges. These laptops were never treated roughly nor were they ever opened from one side of the lid, which would put even more twisting force on the surrounds of the hinges. Have a close look at the plastic around your laptop hinges and see if there are small cracks there. Another indicator of fatique is if the hinge on one side is sloppier than the other. However, the damage may already have been done before any of these external indicators appear.</p>
<p>The basic problem is that older laptops had heavy lids, so requiring fairly stiff hinges to stop them dropping down under their own weight. That, coupled with under-engineered support for the hinges at the laptop body, means that the force required to operate operate the hinges is transferred to the hinge body interface, and eventually fatigues the plastic and it cracks.</p>
<p>Laptops meant for reliable, long term use will have securely fastoned hinges, which usually adds weight. The Lenovo T43s where I work have striong hinges, but they also weigh 2.3kg &#8211; four times the Vaio P.</p>
<p>The first Vaio P, as shown in the video, does slightly lift the body at the start, but doesn&#8217;t throughout most of its range. The newer design does not lift the body at all. The Ps have very light screens though, and thus do not need much friction in the hinge anyway.</p>
<p>With the trend to thinner, lighter lids, the need for stiffer hinges will decrease, thus allowing lighter hinge assemblies and anchor points and lower overall laptop weight.</p>
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		<title>By: Алексей Рубин</title>
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		<dc:creator>Алексей Рубин</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Видел что-то наподобие в англоязычном интернете, в Русскоязычном инете про такое как-то не особо часто посты увидишь.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Видел что-то наподобие в англоязычном интернете, в Русскоязычном инете про такое как-то не особо часто посты увидишь.</p>
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		<title>By: Heartburn Home Remedy</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-perfect-hinge-strength-for-me-video/#comment-20677</link>
		<dc:creator>Heartburn Home Remedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed that this is not the first time   you write about this topic. Why have you chosen it again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that this is not the first time   you write about this topic. Why have you chosen it again?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob H</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-perfect-hinge-strength-for-me-video/#comment-20051</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just wanna say hello to you,my friend</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just wanna say hello to you,my friend</p>
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		<title>By: focus</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-perfect-hinge-strength-for-me-video/#comment-19549</link>
		<dc:creator>focus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an acer travelmate tci111,it can easely be open and close with one 
hand like sony vaio,even beter(no need for two hands to unblock).
So,ben,nothing new under the sun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an acer travelmate tci111,it can easely be open and close with one<br />
hand like sony vaio,even beter(no need for two hands to unblock).<br />
So,ben,nothing new under the sun.</p>
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		<title>By: NobbyNobbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>NobbyNobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strong hinges!
I don`t mind holding the body down while opening the device. A strong hinge not only helps with touch screens (when not in tablet mode) but also when working while moving in a train or plane. Especially train rides are not always as smooth as one would like (at least with the condition of the tracks found in most parts of Germany) an a weak hinge causes the screen to wobble around. This always makes me crazy.
So strong hinges for me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strong hinges!<br />
I don`t mind holding the body down while opening the device. A strong hinge not only helps with touch screens (when not in tablet mode) but also when working while moving in a train or plane. Especially train rides are not always as smooth as one would like (at least with the condition of the tracks found in most parts of Germany) an a weak hinge causes the screen to wobble around. This always makes me crazy.<br />
So strong hinges for me!</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer the hinge strength the way Ben demonstrated with the P. It&#039;s so frustrating having to hold the body everytime just to open the thing (any laptop).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer the hinge strength the way Ben demonstrated with the P. It&#8217;s so frustrating having to hold the body everytime just to open the thing (any laptop).</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it would be nice to be able to open the screen without holding the body down, such a light hinge could be too light to keep its position - eventually, or if the device  has a touch screen. You could aim for the sweet spot, but would it be possible or worth it, considering the wear and tear that could eventually change that delicate balance between just right and too weak?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it would be nice to be able to open the screen without holding the body down, such a light hinge could be too light to keep its position &#8211; eventually, or if the device  has a touch screen. You could aim for the sweet spot, but would it be possible or worth it, considering the wear and tear that could eventually change that delicate balance between just right and too weak?</p>
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		<title>By: Elmstrom</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/03/the-perfect-hinge-strength-for-me-video/#comment-19481</link>
		<dc:creator>Elmstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also vote for the stronge hinges, i have a tablet PC and you need a strong hinge, if you want to use the touch interface when not in slate mode.
Also on my Dell XT i have a strong hinge, but i can open with 1 hand, cause of the thingy that makes me screen rotate sticks out alittle on the back (dont know if it makes sens).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also vote for the stronge hinges, i have a tablet PC and you need a strong hinge, if you want to use the touch interface when not in slate mode.<br />
Also on my Dell XT i have a strong hinge, but i can open with 1 hand, cause of the thingy that makes me screen rotate sticks out alittle on the back (dont know if it makes sens).</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xavier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too like stronger hinges so I don&#039;t have a floppy display down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too like stronger hinges so I don&#8217;t have a floppy display down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: ElCamino</title>
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		<dc:creator>ElCamino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also perfer the stronger hinge. I like the hinge strength on my MSI Wind. I use both hands to open, with no problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also perfer the stronger hinge. I like the hinge strength on my MSI Wind. I use both hands to open, with no problem.</p>
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		<title>By: animatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>animatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with EC,

Totally prefer strong/tight hinges.  YOu can always add more force to open a stiff hinge, but with a weak hinge strength you can not really do much to stop wiggling.  

SO while It would be convenient to open up one handed, I would definitely forgo that convenience to have to perform better down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with EC,</p>
<p>Totally prefer strong/tight hinges.  YOu can always add more force to open a stiff hinge, but with a weak hinge strength you can not really do much to stop wiggling.  </p>
<p>SO while It would be convenient to open up one handed, I would definitely forgo that convenience to have to perform better down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: EC</title>
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		<dc:creator>EC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hinge strength that way aah I was thinking differently :) I lift/haul/move my devices many times at the monitor part and thought you we&#039;re talking about that.

I like them stiffer as everything does get looser and loose to begin with what will it be like 1-2 yrs dwn the road?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hinge strength that way aah I was thinking differently <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I lift/haul/move my devices many times at the monitor part and thought you we&#8217;re talking about that.</p>
<p>I like them stiffer as everything does get looser and loose to begin with what will it be like 1-2 yrs dwn the road?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve 'Chippy' Paine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve 'Chippy' Paine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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