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	<title>Comments on: NYTimes: T-Mobile USA working on 7&#8243;, Android-based &#8216;Tablet&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/04/nytimes-t-mobile-usa-working-on-7-android-based-tablet/#comment-20445</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that worries me about a T-Mobile tablet is:

The current trend in Android devices, including with T-Mobile, is &quot;we HAVE to get a keyboard-less device!!!&quot;   They&#039;re saying here &quot;tablet&quot;, not &quot;netbook&quot;, or something along those lines.  And ... completely keyboardless would be a problem for me.

If it has USB keyboard/mouse support, and Bluetooth keyboard/mouse support, then that would be &quot;acceptable&quot;, but not ideal.  But if it doesn&#039;t even do those (aka &quot;iPhone&quot;), then I wont touch it. (no pun intended)

The Pepperpad is too big though.  And isn&#039;t its screen bigger than 7&quot;?   A 7&quot; version of the Pepperpad is ... a Samsung Q1 Ultra, basically (different internals, yes, but I&#039;m talking about the format of the device).  A 7&quot; device that&#039;s of a similar format to the Q1 Ultra and Pepperpad, similar size to the Q1 Ultra, with an ARM cpu, and Android?  ... oh yeah, I&#039;d be all over that*.

(* assuming my #1-3 above are addressed, and hopefully #&#039;s 4 and 5 too)</description>
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<p>The current trend in Android devices, including with T-Mobile, is &#8220;we HAVE to get a keyboard-less device!!!&#8221;   They&#8217;re saying here &#8220;tablet&#8221;, not &#8220;netbook&#8221;, or something along those lines.  And &#8230; completely keyboardless would be a problem for me.</p>
<p>If it has USB keyboard/mouse support, and Bluetooth keyboard/mouse support, then that would be &#8220;acceptable&#8221;, but not ideal.  But if it doesn&#8217;t even do those (aka &#8220;iPhone&#8221;), then I wont touch it. (no pun intended)</p>
<p>The Pepperpad is too big though.  And isn&#8217;t its screen bigger than 7&#8243;?   A 7&#8243; version of the Pepperpad is &#8230; a Samsung Q1 Ultra, basically (different internals, yes, but I&#8217;m talking about the format of the device).  A 7&#8243; device that&#8217;s of a similar format to the Q1 Ultra and Pepperpad, similar size to the Q1 Ultra, with an ARM cpu, and Android?  &#8230; oh yeah, I&#8217;d be all over that*.</p>
<p>(* assuming my #1-3 above are addressed, and hopefully #&#8217;s 4 and 5 too)</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/04/nytimes-t-mobile-usa-working-on-7-android-based-tablet/#comment-20443</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because Android is a &quot;REAL&quot; OS, not just a mobile OS?

There aren&#039;t any apps I would want to do with a netbook/UMPC/MID that I can&#039;t do on my G1 ... the question isn&#039;t &quot;can I do X&quot;, it&#039;s &quot;how well can I do X&quot;:

1) Gmail doesn&#039;t do &quot;send as&quot; for my other email personalities, allow me to add/edit filters, nor create new labels

2) Google Reader doesn&#039;t support keyboard shortcuts, adding/editing tags, nor adding/editing subscriptions

3) Google Docs is read only, and only for some formats

4) I haven&#039;t come across an IM client as fully featured as Pidgin.  The built in one only lets you have one active IM account at a time (not &quot;one per service/protocol&quot;, but &quot;one at all&quot;), doesn&#039;t let you have more than one Google Talk account, and doesn&#039;t recognize Jabber/XMPP services other than Google Talk.  I would want to have more services/protocols, other Jabber/XMPP services, multiple Google Talk identities, and the ability to be logged in to ALL of my IM accounts at once (even multiple identities on the same service/protocol).

5) I love the ssh client (ConnectBot), but haven&#039;t been able to get it to work with the VNC viewer.  Not a big deal on my G1 (it would be a novelty), but if I&#039;m running this on a UMPC or Netbook, this will become more of a necessity.

Those things don&#039;t require retooling the OS.  The first 3 are, I suspect, because the browser on the G1 identifies itself as a mobile browser.  If you were to get a browser on Android that identified itself as a desktop browser, those behaviors would probably all be acceptable.  The 4th one is clearly just a matter of application development -- and I haven&#039;t tried any of the 3rd party apps to see if they do a better job in the IM arena.  The last one: purely a matter of coordination by 3rd party developers.

What things, other than opening up a command line shell (which you can&#039;t do on all desktop OSes either), what can&#039;t you do on Android that is the fault of the OS and not the application ecosystem?  (and, before you say anything about screen size, Android has already been run on a netbook, with the larger screen and higher pixel count; so THAT complaint is completely off the table)</description>
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<p>There aren&#8217;t any apps I would want to do with a netbook/UMPC/MID that I can&#8217;t do on my G1 &#8230; the question isn&#8217;t &#8220;can I do X&#8221;, it&#8217;s &#8220;how well can I do X&#8221;:</p>
<p>1) Gmail doesn&#8217;t do &#8220;send as&#8221; for my other email personalities, allow me to add/edit filters, nor create new labels</p>
<p>2) Google Reader doesn&#8217;t support keyboard shortcuts, adding/editing tags, nor adding/editing subscriptions</p>
<p>3) Google Docs is read only, and only for some formats</p>
<p>4) I haven&#8217;t come across an IM client as fully featured as Pidgin.  The built in one only lets you have one active IM account at a time (not &#8220;one per service/protocol&#8221;, but &#8220;one at all&#8221;), doesn&#8217;t let you have more than one Google Talk account, and doesn&#8217;t recognize Jabber/XMPP services other than Google Talk.  I would want to have more services/protocols, other Jabber/XMPP services, multiple Google Talk identities, and the ability to be logged in to ALL of my IM accounts at once (even multiple identities on the same service/protocol).</p>
<p>5) I love the ssh client (ConnectBot), but haven&#8217;t been able to get it to work with the VNC viewer.  Not a big deal on my G1 (it would be a novelty), but if I&#8217;m running this on a UMPC or Netbook, this will become more of a necessity.</p>
<p>Those things don&#8217;t require retooling the OS.  The first 3 are, I suspect, because the browser on the G1 identifies itself as a mobile browser.  If you were to get a browser on Android that identified itself as a desktop browser, those behaviors would probably all be acceptable.  The 4th one is clearly just a matter of application development &#8212; and I haven&#8217;t tried any of the 3rd party apps to see if they do a better job in the IM arena.  The last one: purely a matter of coordination by 3rd party developers.</p>
<p>What things, other than opening up a command line shell (which you can&#8217;t do on all desktop OSes either), what can&#8217;t you do on Android that is the fault of the OS and not the application ecosystem?  (and, before you say anything about screen size, Android has already been run on a netbook, with the larger screen and higher pixel count; so THAT complaint is completely off the table)</p>
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		<title>By: focus</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/04/nytimes-t-mobile-usa-working-on-7-android-based-tablet/#comment-20335</link>
		<dc:creator>focus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could be the price?what you gonna say about 25-50% from 7&quot; UMPC?
And about batery,2-3x more time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could be the price?what you gonna say about 25-50% from 7&#8243; UMPC?<br />
And about batery,2-3x more time?</p>
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		<title>By: Eoughbrock</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/04/nytimes-t-mobile-usa-working-on-7-android-based-tablet/#comment-20331</link>
		<dc:creator>Eoughbrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>7&quot; UMPC&#039;s to big for the pocket were bad enough, but at least they ran a REAL OS. why in the world would i want a silly mobile OS in a 7&quot; device to big to go everywhere? i could get that same OS in a phone instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7&#8243; UMPC&#8217;s to big for the pocket were bad enough, but at least they ran a REAL OS. why in the world would i want a silly mobile OS in a 7&#8243; device to big to go everywhere? i could get that same OS in a phone instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve 'Chippy' Paine</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/04/nytimes-t-mobile-usa-working-on-7-android-based-tablet/#comment-53763</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve 'Chippy' Paine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;New article: NYTimes: T-Mobile USA working on 7&quot;, Android-based &#039;Tablet&#039; http://cli.gs/1RbJSJ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">New article: NYTimes: T-Mobile USA working on 7&#8243;, Android-based &#8216;Tablet&#8217; <a href="http://cli.gs/1RbJSJ" rel="nofollow">http://cli.gs/1RbJSJ</a></span></span></span></p>
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