Comments on: UMPC Choices: X70, U820, SK3, SC3, TN70M. Read This and Join the Live Session. http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/07/umpc-choices-x70-u820-sk3-sc3-tn70m-read-this-and-join-the-live-session/ Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:32:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: peter http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/07/umpc-choices-x70-u820-sk3-sc3-tn70m-read-this-and-join-the-live-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24249 peter Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:29:08 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=8255#comment-24249 I don't know if you could try running a demo of removing its hard drive and replacing it with an SSD or something 1GB of RAM is bad enough, and it'll be just worse if we users have to stick with this trashy hard drive... will there be any larger capacity battery available? 2 hours is just totally unacceptable what's the point of getting such a tiny laptop when you dont get to bring it along without having to carry the frxxin charger and you even have to always find a place where you can plug in the adapter i totally don't understand it i'm sorry to be saying this, but it is unbelievably retarded I don’t know if you could try running a demo of removing its hard drive and replacing it with an SSD or something
1GB of RAM is bad enough, and it’ll be just worse if we users have to stick with this trashy hard drive…

will there be any larger capacity battery available?
2 hours is just totally unacceptable

what’s the point of getting such a tiny laptop when you dont get to bring it along without having to carry the frxxin charger
and you even have to always find a place where you can plug in the adapter
i totally don’t understand it
i’m sorry to be saying this, but it is unbelievably retarded

]]> By: Schugy http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/07/umpc-choices-x70-u820-sk3-sc3-tn70m-read-this-and-join-the-live-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24164 Schugy Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:22:08 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=8255#comment-24164 7" is definitely the max that fits into my pocket. Convertible would be nice but that would even raise failures. The sturdy case was a good start at least. I still love my note but it can always be done better - and especially this one a lot. At least I don't have to deal with slow Atoms and Open GL uncapable GMA 500/950 graphics (DirectX numbers don't count on Linux which I use on Desktop/UMPC/Netgear-Router and maybe mobile phone in the future). And most important I won't buy any CPU of a company not playing fair and found guilty in a court decision. 7″ is definitely the max that fits into my pocket. Convertible would be nice but that would even raise failures. The sturdy case was a good start at least. I still love my note but it can always be done better – and especially this one a lot. At least I don’t have to deal with slow Atoms and Open GL uncapable GMA 500/950 graphics (DirectX numbers don’t count on Linux which I use on Desktop/UMPC/Netgear-Router and maybe mobile phone in the future). And most important I won’t buy any CPU of a company not playing fair and found guilty in a court decision.

]]> By: passer-by http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/07/umpc-choices-x70-u820-sk3-sc3-tn70m-read-this-and-join-the-live-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24155 passer-by Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:48:15 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=8255#comment-24155 They should have built everun note in 8.9 inch form factor with convertible screen, good battery life and convenient features( including standard keyboard ) Then, I think , is ultimate mobile device (gaming device) with ability to handle a lot of stuff. Everun note was not even noted as umpc choices, due to poor build quality , so as umid m1(ok, this may be mid). It is sad to see those devices . I think kojinsha's design is the best to general public except battery.. They should have built everun note in 8.9 inch form factor with convertible screen, good battery life and convenient features( including standard keyboard ) Then, I think , is ultimate mobile device (gaming device) with ability to handle a lot of stuff. Everun note was not even noted as umpc choices, due to poor build quality , so as umid m1(ok, this may be mid). It is sad to see those devices . I think kojinsha’s design is the best to general public except battery..

]]> By: Schugy http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/07/umpc-choices-x70-u820-sk3-sc3-tn70m-read-this-and-join-the-live-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24145 Schugy Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:29:22 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=8255#comment-24145 [quote]The SK3 is slightly more efficient than the SK3[/quote] WTF? I still hope for an Everun Note clone with 45 nm native AMD Dual Core CPU, LED backlight, touchscreen with fine calibraion, GPS, accelerometers, flat battery e.g. covering the bottom, 3 year warranty (without ever needing it like it was made in Switzerland or Germany) and a perfect out of the box experience. And please no noisy and slow Samsung harddrive. Was even able to play Ankh or NHL 2005 with wine on my Note until I upgraded from Ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 and lost Catalyst support. Have spent hours playing majesty instead. No peripherials needed (nice mouse sensor) and performance is already great when locked to 800 MHz. Hope next Ubuntu will bring major free radeon driver improvements. Pandora handheld will be great for homebrew and emulators but it's nice to have a powerful x86 machine on the go too. [quote]The SK3 is slightly more efficient than the SK3[/quote]

WTF?

I still hope for an Everun Note clone with 45 nm native AMD Dual Core CPU, LED backlight, touchscreen with fine calibraion, GPS, accelerometers, flat battery e.g. covering the bottom, 3 year warranty (without ever needing it like it was made in Switzerland or Germany) and a perfect out of the box experience.
And please no noisy and slow Samsung harddrive.
Was even able to play Ankh or NHL 2005 with wine on my Note until I upgraded from Ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 and lost Catalyst support. Have spent hours playing majesty instead. No peripherials needed (nice mouse sensor) and performance is already great when locked to 800 MHz. Hope next Ubuntu will bring major free radeon driver improvements.

Pandora handheld will be great for homebrew and emulators but it’s nice to have a powerful x86 machine on the go too.

]]> By: Vit http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/07/umpc-choices-x70-u820-sk3-sc3-tn70m-read-this-and-join-the-live-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24134 Vit Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:12:59 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=8255#comment-24134 7" screen is a little too small for my needs, (sometimes I need to do presentation on my M912) so I would say my choice would be minimum 8.9" or 10" is even better. I am looking forward to Asus T91. BTW, there is new development in model variations for T91, check here: http://www.asustablet.com/t91a-t91go-t91-three-models-asus/ I am actually very interested in T91A, the only question if it will be delayed 'till October. 7″ screen is a little too small for my needs, (sometimes I need to do presentation on my M912) so I would say my choice would be minimum 8.9″ or 10″ is even better. I am looking forward to Asus T91. BTW, there is new development in model variations for T91, check here: http://www.asustablet.com/t91a-t91go-t91-three-models-asus/ I am actually very interested in T91A, the only question if it will be delayed ’till October.

]]> By: santaclaus http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/07/umpc-choices-x70-u820-sk3-sc3-tn70m-read-this-and-join-the-live-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24133 santaclaus Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:46:08 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=8255#comment-24133 1. For measuring framerate, I recommend "fraps", http://www.fraps.com/ it will overlay the real framerate on top of the video. 2. For figuring out what formats the webcams can deliver, I suggest using Microsofts graphedit (available in the Microsoft DirectShow SDK, but also found on Google). Often a webcam will deliver EITHER 30fps OR 1600x1200, but not at once :-( 3. For giving users with various quality demands a way to decide for themselves, I suggest posting a high-bitrate video of a living moving person, in "low" and "regular" lighting conditions (however you define those). For really "scientific" approach, having a "known reference" such as a high-quality still-image shot or Logitech pro 9000 video of the same scene would really give readers an impression of what to expect. 4. For use inside, I suggest finding the "power line flicker filter" (or similarly named) and choose 50Hz or 60Hz depending on where you live. 1. For measuring framerate, I recommend “fraps”, http://www.fraps.com/ it will overlay the real framerate on top of the video.

2. For figuring out what formats the webcams can deliver, I suggest using Microsofts graphedit (available in the Microsoft DirectShow SDK, but also found on Google). Often a webcam will deliver EITHER 30fps OR 1600×1200, but not at once :-(

3. For giving users with various quality demands a way to decide for themselves, I suggest posting a high-bitrate video of a living moving person, in “low” and “regular” lighting conditions (however you define those). For really “scientific” approach, having a “known reference” such as a high-quality still-image shot or Logitech pro 9000 video of the same scene would really give readers an impression of what to expect.

4. For use inside, I suggest finding the “power line flicker filter” (or similarly named) and choose 50Hz or 60Hz depending on where you live.

]]> By: admin http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/07/umpc-choices-x70-u820-sk3-sc3-tn70m-read-this-and-join-the-live-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24132 admin Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:40:27 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=8255#comment-24132 Sorry. SHould have annotated the pics. The one's inside are the X70. The SK3 doesnt fit. Sorry. SHould have annotated the pics. The one’s inside are the X70. The SK3 doesnt fit.

]]> By: vk77de http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/07/umpc-choices-x70-u820-sk3-sc3-tn70m-read-this-and-join-the-live-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24130 vk77de Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:13:57 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=8255#comment-24130 Thanks. It seems to be SK3, isn't it? If so, then X70 should do the same very nicely, being even slimmer :-) Thanks.

It seems to be SK3, isn’t it?

If so, then X70 should do the same very nicely,
being even slimmer

:-)

]]> By: KevinR http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/07/umpc-choices-x70-u820-sk3-sc3-tn70m-read-this-and-join-the-live-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24129 KevinR Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:42:53 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=8255#comment-24129 Minor typo in the first line of the SK3 summary: "A real improvement in hardware design over the SK3." I assume that ref should be "SC3". Except of course for the same or lower battery life. Sigh. Minor typo in the first line of the SK3 summary:
“A real improvement in hardware design over the SK3.” I assume that ref should be “SC3″. Except of course for the same or lower battery life. Sigh.

]]> By: admin http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/07/umpc-choices-x70-u820-sk3-sc3-tn70m-read-this-and-join-the-live-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24128 admin Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:40:26 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=8255#comment-24128 I have tested the X70 and the Tn70 with Skype. Both were good with built-in cam and built-in mic. TN70 probably the better of the two. TN70 has a slightly more sensitive camera. X70 returns about 10fps. TN70 appears to be more (say 15fps) SC3 and SK3 not yet tested. It would make a good topic for a post. I'll try and get it on the schedule but it wont be for a few weeks. I have tested the X70 and the Tn70 with Skype. Both were good with built-in cam and built-in mic. TN70 probably the better of the two. TN70 has a slightly more sensitive camera. X70 returns about 10fps. TN70 appears to be more (say 15fps)

SC3 and SK3 not yet tested.

It would make a good topic for a post. I’ll try and get it on the schedule but it wont be for a few weeks.

]]> By: admin http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/07/umpc-choices-x70-u820-sk3-sc3-tn70m-read-this-and-join-the-live-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24127 admin Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:38:12 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=8255#comment-24127 Some pics for you. http://www.flickr.com/photos/umpcportal/tags/jacket/ It's tight and heavy! Some pics for you.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/umpcportal/tags/jacket/

It’s tight and heavy!

]]> By: santaclaus http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/07/umpc-choices-x70-u820-sk3-sc3-tn70m-read-this-and-join-the-live-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24123 santaclaus Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:09:48 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=8255#comment-24123 Chippy: I would really like to see examples using the built-in webcams. Still-images (of video) as well as video in low-light and regular-light conditions would be a blast. Whatever you can find the time to do, and is done in a fair, side-by-side manner. I would like one for Skype/msn use, and I find it extremely difficult to find relevant info about video quality ("1.3 megapixels" is imho worthless information). Buying one of those as a Skype device, then having to use an external webcam means that the device is more or less useless to me. Chippy:
I would really like to see examples using the built-in webcams. Still-images (of video) as well as video in low-light and regular-light conditions would be a blast. Whatever you can find the time to do, and is done in a fair, side-by-side manner.

I would like one for Skype/msn use, and I find it extremely difficult to find relevant info about video quality (“1.3 megapixels” is imho worthless information).

Buying one of those as a Skype device, then having to use an external webcam means that the device is more or less useless to me.

]]> By: vk77de http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/07/umpc-choices-x70-u820-sk3-sc3-tn70m-read-this-and-join-the-live-session/comment-page-1/#comment-24120 vk77de Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:40:47 +0000 http://www.umpcportal.com/?p=8255#comment-24120 Chippy: did you try to put the devices in (separately, separately that is :-) in a standard breast inner pocket of a standard German business suit jacket? Chippy: did you try to put the devices in (separately, separately that is :-) in a standard breast inner pocket of a standard German business suit jacket?

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