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	<title>Comments on: Archos Android MIDs Revealed. OMAP + Android goodness on the way!</title>
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		<title>By: TokyoRob</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/08/archos-android-mids-revealed-omap-android-goodness-on-the-way/#comment-25535</link>
		<dc:creator>TokyoRob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 07:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polloloco has a point and given that Archo&#039;s tech support is possibly one of the worse I have ever seen it&#039;s beyond piss poor 

Also it seems that the really nice glossy screens on the early Archos 5 have been replaced with cheap matt ones   

For the record I have 3 Archos 605Wifi Archos 5 (broken) and an Archos 7 

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polloloco has a point and given that Archo&#8217;s tech support is possibly one of the worse I have ever seen it&#8217;s beyond piss poor </p>
<p>Also it seems that the really nice glossy screens on the early Archos 5 have been replaced with cheap matt ones   </p>
<p>For the record I have 3 Archos 605Wifi Archos 5 (broken) and an Archos 7 </p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>By: PolloLoco</title>
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		<dc:creator>PolloLoco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind that Archos has a frequent policy of breaking promises about features not available on launch day.  You should only ever buy an Archos product for what it&#039;s already capable of doing - or else you have a high probability of being disappointed.

Charbax had similar conjecture about emulation and gaming when the Archos 5 was launched, and the Pandora was similarly announced using the same processor.  So don&#039;t get your hopes up.

All that said, I&#039;d be very interested in the flash version of this device - but only if it&#039;s truly as open as expected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind that Archos has a frequent policy of breaking promises about features not available on launch day.  You should only ever buy an Archos product for what it&#8217;s already capable of doing &#8211; or else you have a high probability of being disappointed.</p>
<p>Charbax had similar conjecture about emulation and gaming when the Archos 5 was launched, and the Pandora was similarly announced using the same processor.  So don&#8217;t get your hopes up.</p>
<p>All that said, I&#8217;d be very interested in the flash version of this device &#8211; but only if it&#8217;s truly as open as expected.</p>
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		<title>By: turn_self_off</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/08/archos-android-mids-revealed-omap-android-goodness-on-the-way/#comment-25399</link>
		<dc:creator>turn_self_off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>never mind, slashgear mention bluetooth. now if i can get one at $199 with bluetooth, i&#039;ll order one more or less on the day...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>never mind, slashgear mention bluetooth. now if i can get one at $199 with bluetooth, i&#8217;ll order one more or less on the day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: turn_self_off</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/08/archos-android-mids-revealed-omap-android-goodness-on-the-way/#comment-25398</link>
		<dc:creator>turn_self_off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm, something just dawned on me. any bluetooth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm, something just dawned on me. any bluetooth?</p>
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		<title>By: Charbax</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/08/archos-android-mids-revealed-omap-android-goodness-on-the-way/#comment-25383</link>
		<dc:creator>Charbax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buying this device for $249 or 249€ with unlocked HSUPA sim card reader built-in, this could be a really awesome buy. You would just insert any data-only HSUPA sim card in it such as the one from tchibo.de for 20€ per month just pre-paid each month for 5GB of usage without contract. Then run Google Voice, Skype, SIP and all types of IM, Google Wave, Friendfeed notifiers and all other such types of things on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buying this device for $249 or 249€ with unlocked HSUPA sim card reader built-in, this could be a really awesome buy. You would just insert any data-only HSUPA sim card in it such as the one from tchibo.de for 20€ per month just pre-paid each month for 5GB of usage without contract. Then run Google Voice, Skype, SIP and all types of IM, Google Wave, Friendfeed notifiers and all other such types of things on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Charbax</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/08/archos-android-mids-revealed-omap-android-goodness-on-the-way/#comment-25382</link>
		<dc:creator>Charbax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even evil 3G carriers like AT&amp;T in the USA or Vodaphone in Europe could sell this for 99€ with a 15€ per month contract. Since the HSUPA data is only used on this tablet, the carrier could ask Archos to lock-out certain Android applications that may do things like VOIP, Tethering as well as locking the downloading or streaming of high bandwidth things (displaying a message: &quot;Please do this high bandwidth type of activity over WiFi&quot;). Or better I prefer a contract at 15€ per month for 5GB or 10GB at least of unrestricted data usage. Thus absolutely no restrictions on VOIP, IM, Tethering, DivX streaming, podcast downloading and whatever other high bandwidth things that people might want to do. Android could easily display a Bandwidth meter on the top right corner of the device so users know if they are approaching their monthly HSDPA transfer limits after which they may have to pay another 15€ for another 5GB or 10GB of bandwidth to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even evil 3G carriers like AT&amp;T in the USA or Vodaphone in Europe could sell this for 99€ with a 15€ per month contract. Since the HSUPA data is only used on this tablet, the carrier could ask Archos to lock-out certain Android applications that may do things like VOIP, Tethering as well as locking the downloading or streaming of high bandwidth things (displaying a message: &#8220;Please do this high bandwidth type of activity over WiFi&#8221;). Or better I prefer a contract at 15€ per month for 5GB or 10GB at least of unrestricted data usage. Thus absolutely no restrictions on VOIP, IM, Tethering, DivX streaming, podcast downloading and whatever other high bandwidth things that people might want to do. Android could easily display a Bandwidth meter on the top right corner of the device so users know if they are approaching their monthly HSDPA transfer limits after which they may have to pay another 15€ for another 5GB or 10GB of bandwidth to use.</p>
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		<title>By: Charbax</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/08/archos-android-mids-revealed-omap-android-goodness-on-the-way/#comment-25381</link>
		<dc:creator>Charbax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, I think at $199 it&#039;ll probably be WiFi-only. But I expect that for $50 more you could have totally unlocked built-in 3G HSUPA as well. And obviously, the 3G version could also be sold subsidized to $99 or less when bought locked at a certain 3G carrier with a data subscription plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, I think at $199 it&#8217;ll probably be WiFi-only. But I expect that for $50 more you could have totally unlocked built-in 3G HSUPA as well. And obviously, the 3G version could also be sold subsidized to $99 or less when bought locked at a certain 3G carrier with a data subscription plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Chippy</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/08/archos-android-mids-revealed-omap-android-goodness-on-the-way/#comment-25380</link>
		<dc:creator>Chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At 199 I won&#039;t expect it to have 3G but I think i&#039;d rather have it than a (current) ipod touch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At 199 I won&#8217;t expect it to have 3G but I think i&#8217;d rather have it than a (current) ipod touch.</p>
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		<title>By: turn.self.off</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/08/archos-android-mids-revealed-omap-android-goodness-on-the-way/#comment-25372</link>
		<dc:creator>turn.self.off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if thats the case, i may get one if it has high app compatibility with what shows up on the phones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if thats the case, i may get one if it has high app compatibility with what shows up on the phones.</p>
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		<title>By: Charbax</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/08/archos-android-mids-revealed-omap-android-goodness-on-the-way/#comment-25371</link>
		<dc:creator>Charbax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I expect the Archos A5 to start at $199 for the lowest capacity model (perhaps a Flash memory only model) without any type of subsidy. So I don&#039;t think cost will be a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect the Archos A5 to start at $199 for the lowest capacity model (perhaps a Flash memory only model) without any type of subsidy. So I don&#8217;t think cost will be a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: turn_self_off</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/08/archos-android-mids-revealed-omap-android-goodness-on-the-way/#comment-25369</link>
		<dc:creator>turn_self_off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>only problem is cost. but then who said it would be cheap being geek? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>only problem is cost. but then who said it would be cheap being geek? <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: chippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re close to having a clutch of Carrypad devices now. I&#039;m happy. I hope others are too!

Fsck yeah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re close to having a clutch of Carrypad devices now. I&#8217;m happy. I hope others are too!</p>
<p>Fsck yeah!</p>
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		<title>By: icura</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/08/archos-android-mids-revealed-omap-android-goodness-on-the-way/#comment-25366</link>
		<dc:creator>icura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fsck Yeah!  This could be a good alternative to the N900 if the mobile radio support is good.

There are actually some good ARM MIDs on the horizon.  Any chance of a carrypad to replace the Raon Everun?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fsck Yeah!  This could be a good alternative to the N900 if the mobile radio support is good.</p>
<p>There are actually some good ARM MIDs on the horizon.  Any chance of a carrypad to replace the Raon Everun?</p>
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		<title>By: turn_self_off</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/08/archos-android-mids-revealed-omap-android-goodness-on-the-way/#comment-25365</link>
		<dc:creator>turn_self_off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if i am reading the manual text included, its a A5G model on its way to, and that will contain a mobile phone radio...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if i am reading the manual text included, its a A5G model on its way to, and that will contain a mobile phone radio&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Charbax</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/08/archos-android-mids-revealed-omap-android-goodness-on-the-way/#comment-25364</link>
		<dc:creator>Charbax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The branching of Android is not because of the Texas Instruments processor, it&#039;s more because Archos is introducing 800x480 and even 720p HDMI output interface possibilities for Android on http://appslib.com

Also, Archos is introducing guidelines to develop Android applications that can take advantage of powerful 3D acceleration, so look forward to video game consoles up to N64 and Dreamcast being emulated right there (and I am imagining a gamepad dock to add gaming control buttons).

Also, Archos is introducing full DivX, XviD, H264, Mpeg2, WMV, On2 codecs, Flash video and any other codecs at full bitrates and resolutions, something no other Android device does yet.

So because of all this, Archos is branching Android on http://appslib.com

Yet there is no reason Archos won&#039;t provide an open Android device so that you could download the Android applications from anywhere else on the web and install them in one-click. As long as the eventual carriers that eventually subsidize the Archos with a data contract, don&#039;t ask Archos to block VOIP, IM and tethering style applications.

And anyways, all Android applications will probably work fine even if they were designed for 2.5x lower resolution and 2x smaller screens. Upscaling the applications is easy to do. As long as Archos includes an electronic compass and GPS, then all this should be fine. Accelerometers and Bluetooth has been confirmed already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The branching of Android is not because of the Texas Instruments processor, it&#8217;s more because Archos is introducing 800&#215;480 and even 720p HDMI output interface possibilities for Android on <a href="http://appslib.com" rel="nofollow">http://appslib.com</a></p>
<p>Also, Archos is introducing guidelines to develop Android applications that can take advantage of powerful 3D acceleration, so look forward to video game consoles up to N64 and Dreamcast being emulated right there (and I am imagining a gamepad dock to add gaming control buttons).</p>
<p>Also, Archos is introducing full DivX, XviD, H264, Mpeg2, WMV, On2 codecs, Flash video and any other codecs at full bitrates and resolutions, something no other Android device does yet.</p>
<p>So because of all this, Archos is branching Android on <a href="http://appslib.com" rel="nofollow">http://appslib.com</a></p>
<p>Yet there is no reason Archos won&#8217;t provide an open Android device so that you could download the Android applications from anywhere else on the web and install them in one-click. As long as the eventual carriers that eventually subsidize the Archos with a data contract, don&#8217;t ask Archos to block VOIP, IM and tethering style applications.</p>
<p>And anyways, all Android applications will probably work fine even if they were designed for 2.5x lower resolution and 2x smaller screens. Upscaling the applications is easy to do. As long as Archos includes an electronic compass and GPS, then all this should be fine. Accelerometers and Bluetooth has been confirmed already.</p>
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