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	<title>Comments on: Archos 9 release announced at IDF, October 22nd, $499</title>
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		<title>By: Big Alpha Male</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Alpha Male</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im a little disappointed with speed of processor since there are 1.6s out there in most netbooks...i think a premium version should be avail with 1.6 atom at min (even with the loss of battery power... ill give up some battery time for not waiting 10 seconds to load firefox etc...), 2gb ram, win 7 premium at least....

also dont like a no SD/SDHC card slot...wtf... who wants a usb port right where you are supposed to hold it..it will be sticking out... should have put the usb port on top (ya it would look kinda funny, but better position IMO for holding the unit) and also a SDHC slot that is flush on the side would be perfect...


so my ?s are if purchasing this basic model wtih 1gb ram and win 7 starter..

Is it possible to upgrade the RAM to 2GB? 

Im assuming you could easily upgrade or do a fresh install to win 7 premium or ultimate... correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im a little disappointed with speed of processor since there are 1.6s out there in most netbooks&#8230;i think a premium version should be avail with 1.6 atom at min (even with the loss of battery power&#8230; ill give up some battery time for not waiting 10 seconds to load firefox etc&#8230;), 2gb ram, win 7 premium at least&#8230;.</p>
<p>also dont like a no SD/SDHC card slot&#8230;wtf&#8230; who wants a usb port right where you are supposed to hold it..it will be sticking out&#8230; should have put the usb port on top (ya it would look kinda funny, but better position IMO for holding the unit) and also a SDHC slot that is flush on the side would be perfect&#8230;</p>
<p>so my ?s are if purchasing this basic model wtih 1gb ram and win 7 starter..</p>
<p>Is it possible to upgrade the RAM to 2GB? </p>
<p>Im assuming you could easily upgrade or do a fresh install to win 7 premium or ultimate&#8230; correct?</p>
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		<title>By: BChau</title>
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		<dc:creator>BChau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As noted above, Win7 Home premium only cost less than 10 dollars more. I would be happy to pay for the upgrade, given that the price of the unit is already $500.
And I would want to add RAM to at least 2 G.
Hopefully one day the SSD drive price will come down and the Archos 9 can swap to SSD easily.
As for DVB-T. Is this confirmed? A big plus for me if it is there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As noted above, Win7 Home premium only cost less than 10 dollars more. I would be happy to pay for the upgrade, given that the price of the unit is already $500.<br />
And I would want to add RAM to at least 2 G.<br />
Hopefully one day the SSD drive price will come down and the Archos 9 can swap to SSD easily.<br />
As for DVB-T. Is this confirmed? A big plus for me if it is there.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Pollard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Pollard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) An extra hour or so (an extra cell) could be added by thickening the device slightly, reshaping the cells to accommodate the change.

2) Granted, but should be available as an option. And maybe is.

3) A larger drive should not reduce response time unless they use a larger but slower drive. A larger drive with the same speeds should not reduce responsiveness, else our computers with 1TB drives would crawl...

4) Multitouch with GPS could be quite useful, for instance, to zoom in or out on a selected area of the map. Anyone who thinks multitouch is only for &quot;kids&quot; and &quot;games&quot; doesn&#039;t have much imagination.

5) If Windows Home Premium only costs $9 more per device, they have no excuse not to use it. An after-purchase Anytime Upgrade costs $80.

6) The idea that a faster processor requires more memory is idiotic, as is the idea that processor speed in any way relates to the drive size. Compatibility is a non-issue if they stay in the same processor family. Battery life and thermal envelope are entirely different matters.

The main reasons for all of these is simple: Price. Hopefully they offer upgrade options. If they offer Windows Home Premium for the $9 you mention, anyone with much understanding will get it.

Next time, please make sure your &quot;logic&quot; is logical. Just using big terms like &quot;thermal strain deformation&quot; (whatever) doesn&#039;t make you seem smarter, particularly when accompanied by numerous spelling, grammar, and punctuation errors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) An extra hour or so (an extra cell) could be added by thickening the device slightly, reshaping the cells to accommodate the change.</p>
<p>2) Granted, but should be available as an option. And maybe is.</p>
<p>3) A larger drive should not reduce response time unless they use a larger but slower drive. A larger drive with the same speeds should not reduce responsiveness, else our computers with 1TB drives would crawl&#8230;</p>
<p>4) Multitouch with GPS could be quite useful, for instance, to zoom in or out on a selected area of the map. Anyone who thinks multitouch is only for &#8220;kids&#8221; and &#8220;games&#8221; doesn&#8217;t have much imagination.</p>
<p>5) If Windows Home Premium only costs $9 more per device, they have no excuse not to use it. An after-purchase Anytime Upgrade costs $80.</p>
<p>6) The idea that a faster processor requires more memory is idiotic, as is the idea that processor speed in any way relates to the drive size. Compatibility is a non-issue if they stay in the same processor family. Battery life and thermal envelope are entirely different matters.</p>
<p>The main reasons for all of these is simple: Price. Hopefully they offer upgrade options. If they offer Windows Home Premium for the $9 you mention, anyone with much understanding will get it.</p>
<p>Next time, please make sure your &#8220;logic&#8221; is logical. Just using big terms like &#8220;thermal strain deformation&#8221; (whatever) doesn&#8217;t make you seem smarter, particularly when accompanied by numerous spelling, grammar, and punctuation errors.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Possibly a dumb question, but is the touch screen on devices like this suitable for taking notes / making sketches? - Basically I want to know if I can use something like this to replace taking a paper notebook to meetings etc..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Possibly a dumb question, but is the touch screen on devices like this suitable for taking notes / making sketches? &#8211; Basically I want to know if I can use something like this to replace taking a paper notebook to meetings etc..</p>
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		<title>By: Tcaires</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tcaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i will buy this device cause is the best design for a tablet made by men</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i will buy this device cause is the best design for a tablet made by men</p>
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		<title>By: Tcaires</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tcaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it seems that none of you guys understand a bit of digital devices at design level.im not going to explain every single reason why archos didnt do this or that but i will clarify the most important points.

1) batery life is 3 to 4 hours, and for the size of their device is very good, if a higher number of cells r used they would have to relocate the memory wich is just right by the battery, and this would make a huge air layer/gap between screen and circuitry, probably 10mm would be added.

2) The reason because harddrive is used is obvious, solid state would increase the devices cost at list by 100 dolars.

3)60 gigs ???? maybe thats the only thing archos could change. but they did try the device with a 80gb harddrive and a 100gb hard drive but the screen response decreased a lot.

4) Multitouch ??? r y kidding me ? multitouch is for kids and people that wants a cool device. archos is a deviced for you do work. if you want to play games and touch you devices with lot of fingers by an ipod.

5)windows starter is way cheaper... microsoft charges 7 dollars per device that is using windows 7 starter and 16 dolars per device using normal edition. upgrade will be available for archos users for a not confirmed price.

6)processor is kind slow i agreed, but for a 60gb hard drive it will work fine, increasing processor speed requires more baterry and 1/8 more memory for a .5ghert increase, then you gotta figure out the temperature ,thermal strain deformation, compatibily between logic families , buffers cachees and etcc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it seems that none of you guys understand a bit of digital devices at design level.im not going to explain every single reason why archos didnt do this or that but i will clarify the most important points.</p>
<p>1) batery life is 3 to 4 hours, and for the size of their device is very good, if a higher number of cells r used they would have to relocate the memory wich is just right by the battery, and this would make a huge air layer/gap between screen and circuitry, probably 10mm would be added.</p>
<p>2) The reason because harddrive is used is obvious, solid state would increase the devices cost at list by 100 dolars.</p>
<p>3)60 gigs ???? maybe thats the only thing archos could change. but they did try the device with a 80gb harddrive and a 100gb hard drive but the screen response decreased a lot.</p>
<p>4) Multitouch ??? r y kidding me ? multitouch is for kids and people that wants a cool device. archos is a deviced for you do work. if you want to play games and touch you devices with lot of fingers by an ipod.</p>
<p>5)windows starter is way cheaper&#8230; microsoft charges 7 dollars per device that is using windows 7 starter and 16 dolars per device using normal edition. upgrade will be available for archos users for a not confirmed price.</p>
<p>6)processor is kind slow i agreed, but for a 60gb hard drive it will work fine, increasing processor speed requires more baterry and 1/8 more memory for a .5ghert increase, then you gotta figure out the temperature ,thermal strain deformation, compatibily between logic families , buffers cachees and etcc.</p>
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		<title>By: jbomb</title>
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		<dc:creator>jbomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been looking into this for some time.  It looks like screen resolution is 1024x600 (I saw somewhere it at 1024x900)  I have 2 questions to see if someone can answer it for me.
I want to use it for drawing/painting.  Will this allow for pressure sensitivity (even with added drivers)?

and can the screen be changed to portrait rather than landscape?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been looking into this for some time.  It looks like screen resolution is 1024&#215;600 (I saw somewhere it at 1024&#215;900)  I have 2 questions to see if someone can answer it for me.<br />
I want to use it for drawing/painting.  Will this allow for pressure sensitivity (even with added drivers)?</p>
<p>and can the screen be changed to portrait rather than landscape?</p>
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		<title>By: davy</title>
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		<dc:creator>davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 05:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to john q this is tablet there talking about not netbook thats why they design it like that if you dont have money just shut up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to john q this is tablet there talking about not netbook thats why they design it like that if you dont have money just shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, you take that battery time, and you multiply it by four. THEN I&#039;ll consider it. Also let me install Linux.
*PROTEST AGAINST MANDATORY EMAIL ADDRESS WHEN COMMENTING*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, you take that battery time, and you multiply it by four. THEN I&#8217;ll consider it. Also let me install Linux.<br />
*PROTEST AGAINST MANDATORY EMAIL ADDRESS WHEN COMMENTING*</p>
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		<title>By: Mal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;ve been using my Motion M1300 for over 6yrs now.  Best purchase I ever made, but its falling apart.  (Gotta keep it plugged in to make it through class, no wireless).
Sure Id love a faster processor, 2GB RAM, SSD and Windows Home Premium (for the tablet features), but I just cant wait anymore.

So I will upgrade the OS, probably swap in a SSD (if possible) and upgrade RAM (if possible).  If I can&#039;t do the drive or RAM, well it will still be a fantastic improvement from what Im currently using.

The form factor is perfect for me.  I currently use a great bluetooth keyboard for typing notes when possible, but have to switch to pen when writing complex formula or graphs (econ).  This is easily the best slate available when I look at screen size (cant go smaller) and weight (a third of the Motions).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;ve been using my Motion M1300 for over 6yrs now.  Best purchase I ever made, but its falling apart.  (Gotta keep it plugged in to make it through class, no wireless).<br />
Sure Id love a faster processor, 2GB RAM, SSD and Windows Home Premium (for the tablet features), but I just cant wait anymore.</p>
<p>So I will upgrade the OS, probably swap in a SSD (if possible) and upgrade RAM (if possible).  If I can&#8217;t do the drive or RAM, well it will still be a fantastic improvement from what Im currently using.</p>
<p>The form factor is perfect for me.  I currently use a great bluetooth keyboard for typing notes when possible, but have to switch to pen when writing complex formula or graphs (econ).  This is easily the best slate available when I look at screen size (cant go smaller) and weight (a third of the Motions).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Pollard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Pollard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This does have a touchscreen, so it could serve all tablet duties.

But:
I&#039;m really surprised it only has a 1.1GHz Atom when the 1.6 is so popular in low-end netbooks.

I&#039;m even more surprised that it has Windows 7 Starter. Doesn&#039;t &quot;Starter&quot; inherently mean &quot;not ready for wide use&quot;? After all, XP and Vista Starter Editions were only even allowed in &quot;developing markets&quot;. OK, after some searching, I found that some are recommending the use of Starter on netbooks because it costs less. But that&#039;s not a good reason. Users will have to pay $80 for an Anytime Upgrade to Premium to get many &quot;normal&quot; features.

Starter cannot backup to a network location, which would seem a valuable feature for a small, easily lost or damaged device. Starter also doesn&#039;t support the Mobility Center which controls such features as advanced power management, despite its use for mobile units like this. Starter doesn&#039;t support Windows touch features like multi-touch, one of the big advertised features of Windows 7. And you can&#039;t even customize things like your wallpaper, colors, or sounds, you know, like you can even do on your phone. And you can&#039;t play DVDs or streaming media.

They need to seriously think over the edition of Windows they are going to put on this unit. The system requirements are the same, and anything they are afraid will slow the unit down, like Aero features, can easily be deselected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This does have a touchscreen, so it could serve all tablet duties.</p>
<p>But:<br />
I&#8217;m really surprised it only has a 1.1GHz Atom when the 1.6 is so popular in low-end netbooks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m even more surprised that it has Windows 7 Starter. Doesn&#8217;t &#8220;Starter&#8221; inherently mean &#8220;not ready for wide use&#8221;? After all, XP and Vista Starter Editions were only even allowed in &#8220;developing markets&#8221;. OK, after some searching, I found that some are recommending the use of Starter on netbooks because it costs less. But that&#8217;s not a good reason. Users will have to pay $80 for an Anytime Upgrade to Premium to get many &#8220;normal&#8221; features.</p>
<p>Starter cannot backup to a network location, which would seem a valuable feature for a small, easily lost or damaged device. Starter also doesn&#8217;t support the Mobility Center which controls such features as advanced power management, despite its use for mobile units like this. Starter doesn&#8217;t support Windows touch features like multi-touch, one of the big advertised features of Windows 7. And you can&#8217;t even customize things like your wallpaper, colors, or sounds, you know, like you can even do on your phone. And you can&#8217;t play DVDs or streaming media.</p>
<p>They need to seriously think over the edition of Windows they are going to put on this unit. The system requirements are the same, and anything they are afraid will slow the unit down, like Aero features, can easily be deselected.</p>
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		<title>By: catfox</title>
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		<dc:creator>catfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m from china.
sth. for u guys.
Archos 9 UMPC:

CPU Intel Atom Z515 1.2GHz
FSB 533MHz  L2 512KB
CHIPSET Intel 945GSE+ICH7M
MEM 1G DDR2
HD 80.0GB SATA 5400RPM
TOUCHPAD 8.9&quot; TFT-LED WXGA 1024×600

Audio Intel High Definition Audio
BT      
802.11b/g
10/100M ethernet
I/O
2×USB 2.0、1×VGA、1×RJ45、mic&amp;phone
card reader
DVB-T</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m from china.<br />
sth. for u guys.<br />
Archos 9 UMPC:</p>
<p>CPU Intel Atom Z515 1.2GHz<br />
FSB 533MHz  L2 512KB<br />
CHIPSET Intel 945GSE+ICH7M<br />
MEM 1G DDR2<br />
HD 80.0GB SATA 5400RPM<br />
TOUCHPAD 8.9&#8243; TFT-LED WXGA 1024×600</p>
<p>Audio Intel High Definition Audio<br />
BT<br />
802.11b/g<br />
10/100M ethernet<br />
I/O<br />
2×USB 2.0、1×VGA、1×RJ45、mic&amp;phone<br />
card reader<br />
DVB-T</p>
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		<title>By: pansapiens</title>
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		<dc:creator>pansapiens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not Windows7 touch? This confirmed? I understand this depends of the interface the screen uses (http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6050&amp;forum=36).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not Windows7 touch? This confirmed? I understand this depends of the interface the screen uses (<a href="http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6050&amp;forum=36" rel="nofollow">http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6050&amp;forum=36</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: Nait</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>--SU3500 or SU7300, with nvidia/ati graphics

Zan, you forgot to add and with 10 hours of work :).
It&#039;s possible with weight 2kg :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211;SU3500 or SU7300, with nvidia/ati graphics</p>
<p>Zan, you forgot to add and with 10 hours of work <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .<br />
It&#8217;s possible with weight 2kg <img src='http://www.umpcportal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Zan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first saw the demo video showing a 9&quot; Archos slate I was thinking this might be my next device, but the specs have killed it.  First and foremost, this Micro$oft limitation on memory is ridiculous, my SC3 has 2GB and I wouldn&#039;t want to run Windows 7 with 1GB ever.  Windows 7 Starter Edition?  I really like my Aero glass, aero peek, and other goodies.  Also, the processor is slow, and there is no multitouch.   

If Archos or any other company want my business they need a &quot;premium&quot; version.  I am happy to keep my SC3 until I find a tablet/slate device between 7-10&quot; with multi-touch, Gobi 3G, at least an Intel ULV processor like SU3500 or SU7300, 2GB Ram and a 128GB SSD, with nvidia/ati graphics.  Sunlight readable would be nice too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first saw the demo video showing a 9&#8243; Archos slate I was thinking this might be my next device, but the specs have killed it.  First and foremost, this Micro$oft limitation on memory is ridiculous, my SC3 has 2GB and I wouldn&#8217;t want to run Windows 7 with 1GB ever.  Windows 7 Starter Edition?  I really like my Aero glass, aero peek, and other goodies.  Also, the processor is slow, and there is no multitouch.   </p>
<p>If Archos or any other company want my business they need a &#8220;premium&#8221; version.  I am happy to keep my SC3 until I find a tablet/slate device between 7-10&#8243; with multi-touch, Gobi 3G, at least an Intel ULV processor like SU3500 or SU7300, 2GB Ram and a 128GB SSD, with nvidia/ati graphics.  Sunlight readable would be nice too.</p>
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