So, similar width and thickness, but 66% heavier.

My current Tungsten E2 weighs in at 136g; its width+thickness are 76+13mm (3+1/2″). I find this fits easily and comfortably in a shirt pocket. This width is nearly ideal for a 4.3″ screen (or even a 4.8″ screen, but the device would need to be a little longer and the bezel reduced).

I still use my E2 because I still have not found a replacement that meets my needs at a price and monthly fee I’m willing to pay. Yet I keep looking for a device with a 4.3″ or 4.8″ WVGA screen (or better) that does not feel like a brick when in my shirt pocket. I’m willing to sacrifice a hardware keyboard to reduce weight & thickness.

For a phone/smartphone/MID (screen 5″ might start to get uncomfortable for my pant pocket.

For a netbook/UMPC (7″-11″ screen)? Gadget-bag/backpack/briefcase/murse (murse = man-purse).

(and that purposely leaves out screens where 5″ <= screen-size 10″ … I wont carry one of those, either … and, IMO, that’s no longer within the realm of what I come to UMPCPortal to talk about :-} Maybe with the right feature set, I could go to 12″, but that’d have to be about the most perfect device ever … and come with a pre-trained puppy, for under $100 total (with the puppy))

“Tablet” is ambiguous enough to go into either category, depending upon the screen size. That’s why I mainly answered based on screen size, instead of “tablet” or something like that.

2). What country do you live in?

I think this would be very interesting information and once you know the numbers would show the market that a particuar device, due to size is really aimed at. I wonder what percentage of the UMPC population are pocket people? The USA seems not to be based on above comments. New Zealand and I guess Germany, Belgium and the UK are pocket people? I understand that gadget people who carry multiple devices all the time will eventually have to put some in pockets. Otherwise their belt would look like an amo belt or their purse would look like a backpack. The question here is if you only carry one item where would you carry it?

The two XP-Phone designs I’ve seen are probably too big for my pocket (5″ screens, 7″ long). That size would be really pushing it. But the N800/N810 size is not too big.

In my experience, the N810 as just about the perfect size for my pocketable device (which, for me, has to be a phone).

You’re right that it’s too small to be my device for taking intensive notes and such (what I call a “mid-range” device — between pocketable and full-size laptop). For that, I need an 8″-10″ screen device. If that’s what you mean by “web tablet”, yes, the N810 is too small to be a mid-range “web tablet”.

But it’s not too big to be a phone/pocketable. To me, it’s exactly the perfect size for a smartphone/mid-phone.

(not the ideal styling, mind, you, but the ideal size. the ideal styling, to me, would be like the HTC Touch Pro 2 or Nokia Surge, each scaled up to a 4.1″ or 4.3″ screen; except that I would want the Touch Pro 2 to have a dpad on the face)

In the us, big is better most of the time from what I’ve learnt.

Anything smaller than 4.1″ is inadequate for my pocketable device. And, anything at 5″ or bigger is probably too large for a “pocketable”. So, 4.3″ is a nice sweet spot.

I agree with Aura Mae below. Aging eyes and fattening fingers will force most of us eventually toward larger screens. Even if it means a change in life style, non-pocket storage.

Then again, lots of people seem to have the phone permanently in their hand and be halfway through a txt message here.