Comments on: xpPhone Update. Images. Technical Information.

By: bradcool

bradcool — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:36:48 +0000

Several companies have tried to embed ARM cpu and x86 CPU into one machine to support both voice and XP. They all failed. 7 inch HTC Shift has both ARM system and x86 system and it can NOT support voice communication. HTC Shift is out of production now. CPC from DualCor tried the same thing back in 2006 and the company failed…

I think there is big problem for ARM system to work smoothly with x86 system together into one machine.

By: alex

alex — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:55:23 +0000

I think the best way to sneak windows into the smartphone market is to embed an ARM cpu alongside the x86 one. That way, it will work as a regular, long battery-life smartphone, while occasionally waking up windows from deep sleep to do some more demanding work.

By: ProDigit

ProDigit — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:29:45 +0000

I find little to no interest in this device…

By: Phil

Phil — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:54:50 +0000

I’m thinking xp phone or PA3. If xp phone is around $400 or so. I’m down.

By: bradcool

bradcool — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:22:05 +0000

I think why most people are excited about xpPhone has nothing to do with AMD Super Mobile CPU, no matter it is Geode or not. What’s special about xpPhone is it can resume from standby mode with incoming calls and incoming SMS. That’s the breakthrough here. That makes MID a “real” phone!

Everun can NOT achieve it, so Everun has only fake phone function. No UMPC or any x86 MID can achieve it. It’s the first time in the history for non ARM CPU to work as a “REAL” phone!

If Geode can NOT achieve this, ITG is proving one thing “this resuming technology with incoming calls and SMS has NOTHING to do with the Geode CPU!”.

We should be able to see ATOM xpPhone, Moorstown xpPhone, VIA xpPhone very soon.

By: bradcool

bradcool — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:01:53 +0000

Agree with Vakeros.

I have been using Everun and OQO for about 2 years. Everun is still my favorite UMPC versus OQO. I never take OQO outside duing to the battery life issue.

1. Everun is not too slow to run Windows XP Home. More importantly, xpPhone is running XP Embedded, WES 2009, instead of XP Home. WES 2009 is much better OS than XP Home for xpPhone. Which will significantly improve the operating speed than XP Home.
2. Everun can play movies for about 5 hours on xp home. It’s reasonable to say xpPhone can run for more than 5 hours on WES 2009.
3. In my mind, xpPhone is an UMPC, focusing on communication for both VOIP and ordinary phone call. It’s great to put VoIP and ordinary Phone together!
4. This will create a new category.

By: yamete888

yamete888 — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:30:08 +0000

I was wondering Chippy if could you look into the EKING S515 as a competitor to the XPPHONE? Perhaps you could get more info from the manufacturer, a review maybe? I’ve seen it being sold on http://wwww.youbaonet.com & http://amazon.cn .
I’ve emailed a couple times to eking@ekingumpc.com (provided at the bottom of the youbaonet.com page) for more info on overseas pricing, but I haven’t gotten any replies! THanks!

By: sophocha

sophocha — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:00:42 +0000

This is the Everun on disguise + telephony.The idea is cool but no thanks.I`ve replaced my Everun back in the days for the simple reason that it couldn`t handle any flash due to not having a dedicated 3d chip…does this have one?If it doesn`t then bye bye xpphone.Geode is fast for 2d (faster than my wibrain on certain occasions) but if you into gaming or flash this is not for you.

By: xpphone fans

xpphone fans — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:08:32 +0000

we love xpphone

http://www.xpphone.com

forum.xpphone.com

By: DavidC1

DavidC1 — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:02:35 +0000

I wonder how the driver/software support is? After having many problems with my wireless devices(for desktop, routers, pci slot cards, various manufacturers) and their compatibility and same with the S5, software is a critical problem.

By: DavidC1

DavidC1 — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:54:13 +0000

OQO failed because of the device’s high price, and for being “mobile” the battery life wasn’t any better than regular notebooks either.

By: Vakeros

Vakeros — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:04:34 +0000

There are a number of good aspects about this UMPC. It is small, it has a 7 hour (claimed) battery life, and it has what looks like a minimum bezel and as full as possible keyboard. Add in the various software tweaks like the resume from standby with incoming call, to its mirror system state and it is looking very good. It is a shame about the name as it conjures up an idea of a phone with XP added. Whereas it is a UMPC with FULL connectivity. It can deal with all bands around the world, it can connect with the various version of mobile broadband and is ready for 4G too. It has BT and WiFi – so it is a complete connectivity unit.
To my mind, the real questions are:
1) Is the CPU up to the job, or will it be too slow?
2) How usable is that keyboard?
3) Is the battery life really 7 hours, or will it actually turn out to be 2?

If the answers are at least:
1} Not too slow
2) Usable
3) More than 4 hours

Then even if you never use the phone function it is a GOOD UMPC. If you are like me and use a phone occasionally then it becomes an even better UMPC and if the CPU is actually more powerful than is being slated (stated) here, then it is a GREAT UMPC. After all, compare it with an S5:
Same size screen, same battery life, similiar dimensions, yet extra functionality in terms of the communication side and has that important missing keyboard. So given a choice between the two which should you go for? I would choose the XPPhone (dependent on the reviews answering the above 3 questions.)

By: Patrick

Patrick — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:03:41 +0000

OQO was a great UMPC product and the company failed, do you think that this will attract buyers in greater number? I really don’t think so, neither in Asia, Europe or US. But what i think is that this will be a good technical base for the company engineers to develop modern MID systems once they understand that Windows XP/7 & x86 processors are the thing of the past for the MID/UMPC market.

By: commenter

commenter — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:29:04 +0000

if you actually clicked on the links in the article, you would have found out that the amd geode lx is extremely slow. the raon digital everun has the 600 Mhz version while the xpphone has the 533 MHz one (from pcworld link). clicking on the reviews for the everun shows that it has problems playing dvds, clicks take time to actually register, low benchmark scores and generally an outdated processor.

By: Toecutter

Toecutter — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:29:05 +0000

Include me among those who cant understand why this concept is being met with so much ridicule and sarcasm. I think this is a great idea: Finally a PC that’s completely mobile without cutting any corners. I simply don’t see this as a phone that runs Windows, to the contrary, I see it as a great mobile PC with dedicated voice features. The integration I’ve seen so far looks great. It’ll be great if they open the phone integration parts to allow devs to add phone functionality like call blocking, etc and this could become a popular platform. I see this as far more attractive than the bulky Shift, which is a similar concept, but not nearly as portable.