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	<title>Comments on: Full Viliv N5, S10 details and pics surface. (2.0Ghz Multitouch S10 is coming!)</title>
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		<title>By: sukhvinder singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>sukhvinder singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The N5 looks good and nice specs,it`s one of the greatest design ever in a umpc.
I only liked Wibrain B1H very useful device than all but poor battery,wrong place usb port,not clamshell style plus you tube videos are slow running but all the buttons are in the right places and works most pc programs and plays loads of windows 95/98/2000/xp games is cool.

When the N5 comes out i will sell my B1H with docking station and add extra money to buy it,is the mouse pointer good as trackpad and arrow keys makes fighting games difficult to play,is the layout of arrow keys identical to Wibrain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The N5 looks good and nice specs,it`s one of the greatest design ever in a umpc.<br />
I only liked Wibrain B1H very useful device than all but poor battery,wrong place usb port,not clamshell style plus you tube videos are slow running but all the buttons are in the right places and works most pc programs and plays loads of windows 95/98/2000/xp games is cool.</p>
<p>When the N5 comes out i will sell my B1H with docking station and add extra money to buy it,is the mouse pointer good as trackpad and arrow keys makes fighting games difficult to play,is the layout of arrow keys identical to Wibrain.</p>
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		<title>By: Minions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 09:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw the JKK&#039;s video of the N5 on the floor of CES, and the optical pointer IS indeed in a very mobile position! It is at the top right above the keyboard, not at the bottom like the picture here! I&#039;m glad they did not give me a reason to have complaints with this product. Now for the price!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw the JKK&#8217;s video of the N5 on the floor of CES, and the optical pointer IS indeed in a very mobile position! It is at the top right above the keyboard, not at the bottom like the picture here! I&#8217;m glad they did not give me a reason to have complaints with this product. Now for the price!</p>
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		<title>By: ramram</title>
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		<dc:creator>ramram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 00:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi girls and guys!

couldn&#039;t help but notice that some here are talking of an &quot;N&quot;10 in this thread, don&#039;t you mean the &quot;S&quot;10? Looks to me like the first instance is in the post itself.

as for the S10, I&#039;ll likely use it for skype a bit, but I&#039;m also wondering if it&#039;ll come with a dialer software like I think Chippy used to call his girlfriend on the X70 late this summer. 

How about GPS - Navigation for use in my car?

Happy 2010 to all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi girls and guys!</p>
<p>couldn&#8217;t help but notice that some here are talking of an &#8220;N&#8221;10 in this thread, don&#8217;t you mean the &#8220;S&#8221;10? Looks to me like the first instance is in the post itself.</p>
<p>as for the S10, I&#8217;ll likely use it for skype a bit, but I&#8217;m also wondering if it&#8217;ll come with a dialer software like I think Chippy used to call his girlfriend on the X70 late this summer. </p>
<p>How about GPS &#8211; Navigation for use in my car?</p>
<p>Happy 2010 to all!</p>
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		<title>By: Minions</title>
		<link>http://www.umpcportal.com/2010/01/full-viliv-n5-s10-details-and-pics-surface-2-0ghz-multitouch-s10-is-coming/#comment-30293</link>
		<dc:creator>Minions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 11:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also Chippy, When possible can we get a confirmation on the location of the optical mouse pointer on the n5? If it is indeed only on the bottom of the keyboard the mobility takes a pretty large hit imho. Still very interesting in seeing the videos from CES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also Chippy, When possible can we get a confirmation on the location of the optical mouse pointer on the n5? If it is indeed only on the bottom of the keyboard the mobility takes a pretty large hit imho. Still very interesting in seeing the videos from CES.</p>
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		<title>By: Minions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, very interesting. Now that the size, and weight as well as battery life has been released I&#039;m going to do a bit of an comparison between the N5 and M2. (this assumes the future 1g finally coming out for the m2)

The N5 has a little less &quot;advertised&quot; battery life vs the m1, however the same of that of the m2. However I believe the m2 may have an even greater reduced battery life than the n5. Both offerings are about on par with each other as far as battery life is concerned. However, this has a gig of ram, whereas the current &quot;m2&quot; offering (version 1.5 really) has only 500mb. When adding that additional 500mb of ram to the m2 I believe the battery life my actually be worse than that of the n5. We&#039;ll have to see some hands on testing before this will be confirmed.

The n5 seems to vary a bit in size. The listed sizes for the N5 are 172(W)x86(H)x25(T)mm. The M2 (I believe) are 161(W)x96.5(H)x29(T)mm.
This means that the n5 is a bit wider than the m2, however it is shorter and less thick.The weights are also a determining factor. The n5 is listed as 399g (.88lbs) vs the M2&#039;s 315g (roughly .70lbs).

The major, and most likely things that will determine which to purchase however will be a combination of the price, availability (which comes out first), and which finally will integrate 3g in the US (or other regions for that matter). (something umid seems to have an extremely hard time doing) Lets not forget that the n5 also has GPS (something the m1/2 is lacking, though can easily be remedied by having 3g access and using the cell towers to triangulate your position with some download-able programs.

In the end, I believe due to UMIDS &quot;procrastination&quot; and lack of advertising and announcements, they will lose their niche market to viliv. Viliv has popped up with this product, and seems to ready to put it through its paces, along with the announcement that they will carry some of these in retail outlets!

(I know I wrote a lot, just figured i&#039;d add my 2 cents after waiting a year for the m2 to finally get released, which may be even longer)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, very interesting. Now that the size, and weight as well as battery life has been released I&#8217;m going to do a bit of an comparison between the N5 and M2. (this assumes the future 1g finally coming out for the m2)</p>
<p>The N5 has a little less &#8220;advertised&#8221; battery life vs the m1, however the same of that of the m2. However I believe the m2 may have an even greater reduced battery life than the n5. Both offerings are about on par with each other as far as battery life is concerned. However, this has a gig of ram, whereas the current &#8220;m2&#8243; offering (version 1.5 really) has only 500mb. When adding that additional 500mb of ram to the m2 I believe the battery life my actually be worse than that of the n5. We&#8217;ll have to see some hands on testing before this will be confirmed.</p>
<p>The n5 seems to vary a bit in size. The listed sizes for the N5 are 172(W)x86(H)x25(T)mm. The M2 (I believe) are 161(W)x96.5(H)x29(T)mm.<br />
This means that the n5 is a bit wider than the m2, however it is shorter and less thick.The weights are also a determining factor. The n5 is listed as 399g (.88lbs) vs the M2&#8242;s 315g (roughly .70lbs).</p>
<p>The major, and most likely things that will determine which to purchase however will be a combination of the price, availability (which comes out first), and which finally will integrate 3g in the US (or other regions for that matter). (something umid seems to have an extremely hard time doing) Lets not forget that the n5 also has GPS (something the m1/2 is lacking, though can easily be remedied by having 3g access and using the cell towers to triangulate your position with some download-able programs.</p>
<p>In the end, I believe due to UMIDS &#8220;procrastination&#8221; and lack of advertising and announcements, they will lose their niche market to viliv. Viliv has popped up with this product, and seems to ready to put it through its paces, along with the announcement that they will carry some of these in retail outlets!</p>
<p>(I know I wrote a lot, just figured i&#8217;d add my 2 cents after waiting a year for the m2 to finally get released, which may be even longer)</p>
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		<title>By: focus</title>
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		<dc:creator>focus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Viliv N10-BLADE!? at 2.5cm do you call this a blade?!!!
My old Acer tc111 have this size!
WHAT A CRAP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Viliv N10-BLADE!? at 2.5cm do you call this a blade?!!!<br />
My old Acer tc111 have this size!<br />
WHAT A CRAP!</p>
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		<title>By: pocketable</title>
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		<dc:creator>pocketable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was talking about the huge Vaio X.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was talking about the huge Vaio X.</p>
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		<title>By: pocketable</title>
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		<dc:creator>pocketable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would only use an Atom based device if it was pocketable. That thing is huge. The Acer or Lenovo mentioned above are more useful at that size. Weight doesn&#039;t matter as much if you&#039;re going to use some sort of bag anyway. With CULVs and GMA 4500MHD you could do a whole lot more with the same form factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would only use an Atom based device if it was pocketable. That thing is huge. The Acer or Lenovo mentioned above are more useful at that size. Weight doesn&#8217;t matter as much if you&#8217;re going to use some sort of bag anyway. With CULVs and GMA 4500MHD you could do a whole lot more with the same form factor.</p>
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		<title>By: NP</title>
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		<dc:creator>NP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.Detail specifications of N5 please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.Detail specifications of N5 please.</p>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot the link 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJmeF3cxC0g</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot the link </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJmeF3cxC0g" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJmeF3cxC0g</a></p>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.. and just to complete my rough impressions of the viao-x a quick video where
 
-&gt; I manipulate a 720P avi while surfing without any trouble with firefox
-&gt; use a 160Mb spreadsheet full of datas and VBA
-&gt; analyze 25MB CR2 (canon 5DMKII) files with fsviewer
-&gt; watch 720P movie simultanously a youtube movie even in HD (I overclock at 2.1Ghz to get a fluent youtube movie)

.. so a 760g really usable computer.. shall we call it UMPC, Netbook UltraLightNotebook .. no idea, but the 7th one I own (U71P, P1510, R500, OQO, OQOE2, R600, VaioP) and probably the best one much smaller than a magazine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.. and just to complete my rough impressions of the viao-x a quick video where</p>
<p>-&gt; I manipulate a 720P avi while surfing without any trouble with firefox<br />
-&gt; use a 160Mb spreadsheet full of datas and VBA<br />
-&gt; analyze 25MB CR2 (canon 5DMKII) files with fsviewer<br />
-&gt; watch 720P movie simultanously a youtube movie even in HD (I overclock at 2.1Ghz to get a fluent youtube movie)</p>
<p>.. so a 760g really usable computer.. shall we call it UMPC, Netbook UltraLightNotebook .. no idea, but the 7th one I own (U71P, P1510, R500, OQO, OQOE2, R600, VaioP) and probably the best one much smaller than a magazine</p>
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		<title>By: Another guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 13:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how the N5 will compare to the UMID M2. I am going to buy the M2 as soon as it&#039;s out, so having new options is always a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how the N5 will compare to the UMID M2. I am going to buy the M2 as soon as it&#8217;s out, so having new options is always a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some &quot;bad&quot; pictures between U71P, OQOE2 , Vaio-P, Vaio-X, Vaio-Z51


http://photos.corbi.eu/photos/swfpopup.mg?AlbumID=10862380&amp;AlbumKey=hZMqN

Definitly the 760g Vaio-X is very very thin and very light -&gt; half of the wheight of an ultraperformer as a Vaio-Z51 at 1500g (much lighter than any other brands at a 110.000 Crytalmark points), and much lighter and thiner than any netbook on the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some &#8220;bad&#8221; pictures between U71P, OQOE2 , Vaio-P, Vaio-X, Vaio-Z51</p>
<p><a href="http://photos.corbi.eu/photos/swfpopup.mg?AlbumID=10862380&#038;AlbumKey=hZMqN" rel="nofollow">http://photos.corbi.eu/photos/swfpopup.mg?AlbumID=10862380&#038;AlbumKey=hZMqN</a></p>
<p>Definitly the 760g Vaio-X is very very thin and very light -&gt; half of the wheight of an ultraperformer as a Vaio-Z51 at 1500g (much lighter than any other brands at a 110.000 Crytalmark points), and much lighter and thiner than any netbook on the market.</p>
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		<title>By: mouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say having the mouse on the center of the device is not clever at all or may actually be pretty dumb. These small devices are likely going to be held with two hands and the center would be the farthest away from either thumb. A good place would be at the top corners of where the keyboard is or the bottom corners of where the screen is. To me, that would be a more clever placement than the center area of which where Viliv seems to have placed it on the N5 based on the picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say having the mouse on the center of the device is not clever at all or may actually be pretty dumb. These small devices are likely going to be held with two hands and the center would be the farthest away from either thumb. A good place would be at the top corners of where the keyboard is or the bottom corners of where the screen is. To me, that would be a more clever placement than the center area of which where Viliv seems to have placed it on the N5 based on the picture.</p>
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		<title>By: bezel</title>
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		<dc:creator>bezel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to mention that the mouse part of the video is at 2:30. Another good place would be above the keyboard like the Sharp Netwalker but that would make the device bigger or the keyboard smaller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to mention that the mouse part of the video is at 2:30. Another good place would be above the keyboard like the Sharp Netwalker but that would make the device bigger or the keyboard smaller.</p>
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