Comments on: LG GW990 Intel Moorestown Smartphone. Video Demo.

By: HTCDroid Eris

HTCDroid Eris — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:06:55 +0000

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By: Verizon Dare

Verizon Dare — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:09:52 +0000

i imagine it was a bit rushed, and omitted some options that not many people talk about. Everybody is aware of that almost all new smartphones have internet, so why present that fundamental function at its bear minimum. Scroll up scroll down zoom in zoom out. Really? which new telephone doesnt try this? How bout speak about how the text rearranges itsself. Additionally the texting, very poor review. Why didnt you mention you can use the mic and textual content with your voice? Unnoticed ALOT of other more vital options

By: Chippy

Chippy — Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:17:32 +0000

Good point about latency. AFAIK know they are shutting down components when the device is in use, not just in standby.

By: Steve 'Chippy' Paine

Steve 'Chippy' Paine — Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:19:07 +0000

Great discussion about power/standby/gating on Intel Moorestown in this article. My readers are just awesome! http://bit.ly/7v9yhM

By: DavidC1

DavidC1 — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 19:28:23 +0000

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2357918,00.asp

Here’s another info: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/01/moblin-linux-on-x86-smartphone-intels-small-step-forward.ars

5 hours on 3G browsing. It’s pretty good considering that’s what iPhone 3GS with 3.5-inch screen and on a much slower CPU can do on its 1250mAh. It’s still a big difference, but not a magnitude difference pessimists are predicting. Imagine on a 3.5 inch screen like the iPhone.

CPU is supposedly 1.2GHz, though I assume that could be misinterpreted info.

There’s another phone using Moorestown, the Aava one, that is more compact: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3716

By: aj

aj — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 19:22:12 +0000

Are we making up figures now?
20 hours talk time
1000 hours standby

It’s also called the LG SuperPhone.

By: admin

admin — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:18:43 +0000

Where did that come from? Intel weren’t talkning about any figures.

4-hour talk time isn’t going to impress anyone but it’s damn amazing for an 1850mah battery on a PC!

By: DavidC1

DavidC1 — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:09:21 +0000

Preliminary info:

4 hour Talk Time
300 hour Standby

By: Arc

Arc — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 02:35:33 +0000

Sorry, Phones, I must be way behind the times. However, I’ve always asked the Verizon store for the phones with the longest battery lives, and no one has ever shown me something with 28 days of standby, like the Nokia E52.

It could be that Verizon doesn’t sell any of the more nifty phone. I often see the newest phones sold at the AT&T and TMobile stores, first, but I wouldn’t give up my Verizon coverage with these other carriers. In Oregon, the coverage sucks on any non-Verizon network.

Still, I can hardly imagine going nearly a month between charging my phone. I usually plug mine in before going to bed every night, and keep the charger on my nightstand. It certainly doesn’t bother me to do this, but I suppose I wouldn’t mind if I only had to do this every week or so.

By: phones

phones — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 01:18:44 +0000

Google is your friend.

LG GW620 – 600 hours standby
Nokia E52 – 672 hours standby
Samsung Giorgio Armani B7620 – 590 hours standby
HTC HD2 – 490 hours standby

By: phones

phones — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 01:04:12 +0000

@pouncep and Arc
You two apparently haven’t seen very many smart/dumb phones then.

By: power gating

power gating — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 20:44:57 +0000

How exactly are they doing their power gating? Are they switching the power off on unused circuit blocks dynamically or just under standby? If they’re dynamically power gating circuit blocks then performance could take a big hit since the main drawback of power gating is the long wake-up latency.

By: standby

standby — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 20:20:52 +0000

@pouncep
Well if you look up some specs on standby times.
Motorola Droid – 270 hrs
LG Dare – 260 hrs
Nokia Intrigue – 264 hrs
Motorola Karma QA1 – 366 hrs
Nokia Surge 6790 – 400 hrs
Samsung SGH-T239 – 300 hrs
BlackBerry Curve 8500 Series- 408 hrs
Samsung Convoy – 537 hrs
Samsung Omnia II – 375 hrs
HTC Droid Eris – 373 hrs
and many others…

As for anecdotal evidence I had an LG Dare and left it at home for a week to go on vacation and when I came back it had 30% battery left.

By: Thomas.jay

Thomas.jay — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:36:15 +0000

I think that the Operating-System-Layer has to use the power-save-modes the Hardware offers to the software or else you will never ever get acceptable battery runtimes. So Microsoft has to adapt windows 7 to the power-save-modes wich moorestown is offering not vice versa.

They already have a windows-compatibel Moorestown -> Pine Trail

The really tricky thing is to control all the clocks and power-save modes of the periphery.

So if Microsoft wants a good implementation they have to adapt it to moorestown. But I think there are some fights behind the scenes between windows mobile division and windows desktop division.

By: Arc

Arc — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:46:24 +0000

PounceP, good point. My quick math was apparently too quick….

I agree with you on the smartphone standby life, too. Of all the phones I’ve seen, some can last a few days between charges, assuming little to no usage in between, but I’ve never seen a single one that can last more than about 4 days, which would suggest that even >100 hours is unrealistic (not withstanding the extended form factor batteries, which might, but I don’t know anyone who buys these).

It would also suggest that Intel’s 50x claims probably have to do with their own chips, and not the platform as a whole, because 10 days of standby life is greater than most of the power efficient phones I’ve seen. If Intel can hit at least 4 days with a Moorestown phone, it would put it up there with the ones that I’ve seen, at least.