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Coming up: Kupa X11, A Windows 8-Ready Tablet

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It was last August that I wrote about the Kupa X11 tablet. I highlighted the battery capacity as the key feature because it’s not often you see such a high capacity battery in  an X86-based device under 1KG. What I didn’t know then was that Windows 8 would require 1366×768 to run the full range of Metro apps and features so the Kupa is now one of only a handful of tablets you can buy today that are Windows 8 ready. At the top-end you have the Samsung XE700 based on Core i5 technology. Fighting it out in the lower-end are the ExoPC (and variants) and the Kupa X11. There’s the Motion Computing CL900 to consider too. What’s interesting about the Kupa though is that it runs Oaktrail, which is going to give it a a very long runtime, coupled with a fast SSD, 2GB of RAM and 3G, this could be just what some people have been looking for.

Thanks to Kupa I now have the Kupa X11 Pro here for testing. Full Kupa X11 specifications, gallery and links are available on our information page. Here’s a selection of the important specs.

  • 10.1” 1366×768 hi-resolution screen
  • 2GB RAM
  • Dual-layer touch (finger / digitizer pen)
  • 2GB RAM
  • 64GB SSD
  • 3G (HSDPA including telephony)
  • 52Wh battery (equivalent to a 6-cell netbook battery)
  • Fingerprint Reader
  • Dual cameras (2.0 / 3.0MP)
  • Mini HDMI
  • Windows 7 Pro

 

The Kupa X11 was available in Q4 2011 so there may be some of you out there that own it already but as Windows 8 gets nearer, it’s an imprtant device to be testing. Expect an unboxing and first impressions video very soon.

Full details of the Kupa X11 in our database.

 

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Fujitsu TH40/D Slider Tablet Hands-On

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You’ve probably seen plenty of previews of Windows 8 over the last 12 hours or so given that its just gone publicly available as a preview. The operating system offers multiple usage scenarios for touch, mobile and productivity. Devices like the Fujitsu TH40 will benefit highly from Windows 8 as they too offer multiple usage scenarios.

I was really quite impressed with the device after my hands on at the Intel Atom Showcase here at IDF. Of all the Oaktrail devices I’ve tried, this has been the best experience yet. I was left wondering why this is only available in Japan.

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Look out for the optical mouse pointer. Given my experience with other Oaktrail devices I would put the working battery life, screen on, at about 4-5hrs. Two points I would have to think carefully about are the longevity of the slider mechanism and the processing power which, on Oaktrail, is never really going to impress anyone.

Kupa X11 offers 54Wh Capacity Dual-Mode Tablet in under 1kg

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At IFA next week. Kupa will be showing the Kupa X11, a 10″ Oaktrail (1.5Ghz Atom) based tablet that is said to offer 10 hours of battery life.

Always suspicious of battery life claims, I checked out the specs and after seeing the huge 54Wh battery am fairly confident that it could indeed reach 10 hours of light usage. The battery doesn’t bring major weight issues either as the product is coming in under 1kg.

Pressure sensitive digitized and 10-point capacitive multi-touch brings the best of pen and touch input options. There’s a hi-res 1366×768 screen and 2GB Ram driven by Windows 7 Pro.

The basic model with 64GB SSD is going to retail for $699 which isn’t bad given the hi-end screen and battery. Adding 3G, GMS and storage up to 128GB takes the price to $999

We’ll keep an eye out for the Kupa X11 at IFA.

http://www.kupaworld.com/en/product/kupaX11

[ Posted via the Galaxy Tab. Ultra-Mobile at IFA 2011. For more IFA coverage, follow me on Twitter. @Chippy ]

Viewpad 10pro Win 7 Tablet Shipping. Bluestacks Android Questions to be Answered Soon

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Not only is the Viewpad 10pro one of the first Oaktrail-based (Intel Atom Z670) tablets to ship, it’s also the first with Bluestacks on it. Bluestacks is an ‘Android player’ that simulates an Android environment in order to run Android programs. Like Myriad Dalvic Turbo, it’s a system with a lot of unanswered questions. Sideloading, GPS, network usage, power, speed.

But first, let’s talk about the Viewpad 10pro. It was spotted as available in the USA by Liliputing yesterday and checks on the European side of the pond indicate that it’s already shipping in a few countries. 560 Euro gets you a 32GB, Win 7 HP version with 2GB of RAM and the aforementioned Bluestacks Android player in Germany. I’m also seeing it in the UK.

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Viewsonic Viewpad 10 Pro in the product database.

 

With a weight of 800gm we’re getting into some interesting territory and if the battery is 36Wh as I’ve calculated, we should be looking at 5hrs life on this platform. Viewsonic claim ‘up to 8hrs’ which is possible I guess, in idle situations. The downside to the Oaktrail platform is performance. You’re looking at a 1.5Ghz CPU which is slower than the first-generation Atom netbooks. Graphics won’t be up to much either with a netbook-level performance again. If fast SSD and memory has been implemented then there’s some hope for a smooth Windows 7 experience but don’t expect too much. Browsing should be fairly quick compared to consumer tablets but don’t expect to do a/v editing work on this.

As for Android, it’s an interesting addition to the platform. The core system is known at hyperDroid, technically a hosted hypervisor which emulates the Android hardware environment and runs within Windows. As you can probably guess, there’s no way to shutdown or idle Windows while the hosted Android system is running so you won’t get any battery life advantages but with switching times in the 1-second range, you at least get the ability to run Android apps when you wish without having to go through a multi-boot process.

According to Bluestacks documentation (Bluestacks hyperDroid PDF, More here.), the file system is shared, networking is shared and simultaneous use also possible. As for emulating hardware like GPS, accelerometer and other hardware, that would be implementation independent and it’s the bit we’re going to have to wait for reviews on.

Performance in Bluestacks should be quite good so there’s some potential for gaming but do note that this is Android Open Source and not a Google Android build. That means you won’t be getting Gmail, Maps and all the other interesting Google apps. Having been through that before on a number of devices and had to deal with sideloading of apps, I wonder just how much use it will get over time.

We’re in touch with Viewsonic and are trying to arrange a review sample for an interesting live session. Stay tuned.

Update: In Europe there is going to be a follow-up model which will be better optimized for Bluestacks and a 2.3 build of Android. Please note that the current batch of Viewpad 10pro devices are optimised for Windows although they do include a Bluestacks build. The new model will start shipping in 2-4 weeks. We will be getting an early model early next week for testing.

Viewsonic Viewpad 10 Pro in the product database along with a list of comparable devices.

E-King Talent T9 Z670/Oaktrail Tablet – Official Specs

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Another tablet in the mix! Multi-boot possibilities set this apart from the ARM-based tablets.

The E-king range of UMPCs, by the company that bought the rights to the extremely productive (but very ugly) Wibrain B1/i1 and the slider M5 UMPC will soon have a 10” tablet offering called the Talent T9. It’s built on Intel’s Oaktrail and is said to be ‘the thinnest’ in the world. Whatever, China! What we really need to see is the device in action.

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Eking T9 TabletSpecifications look OK with 2GB RAM, an impressive 650gm weight, an IPS screen and 3G options and there’s a big play on the multi-OS options that a traditional PC platform brings. It’s worth watching closely because Intel are working on Meego and Android official builds for this platform. The multi-OS claim is probably more important than thickness.

Click here for our tracking page including specifications, gallery and news items.

As for price and availability, we’re hearing about a September availability with some possible hands-on in August but as always, expect that to change. Pricing is completely unknown at the moment.

The E-King Talent T9 goes up against a number of other 10” Oaktrail tablets including the Lenovo Ideapad P1, Viewsonic Viewpad 10 Pro and the Samsung Series 7 Slider which we could see launched at IFA in September.  Here’s a list of all Oaktrail tablets.

With respect to Meego and Android for Oaktrail, look forward to news of that from Intel’s developer forum, also in September.

Update: We’ve had confirmation from Simon Thomas at Think4Mobile that this is real. They’re expecting a sample very soon.

Source: Industry contact and zol.com.cn

Fujitsu F-07C – Questionable Design Choices

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As phone / PC combos go, this Fujitsu F-07C is definitely the smallest I’ve ever seen. It’s also the smallest PC I’ve ever seen.
A 1.2Ghz Atom, 1.0GB of RAM and 32GB of storage sounds like it could work as we’ve seen similar set-ups in the past. 1024*600 screen resolution is ok too. You’ve got a slide-out keyboard, Wi-Fi and a docking port and a local RRP of $850. Sounds exciting.

I’m a little confused though. Fujitsu know what it takes to make a UMPC so they should know that a 4″ screen makes Windows nearly unusable at any resolution and that a 2hr battery life doesn’t impress anyone. I wonder what the target market here is.

Hot-desking Japanese execs come to mind but there’s probably another reason. Win7 provides good encryption so perhaps this was built as a secure storage device? Perhaps its main purpose is to be docked and used with screen, keyboard and mouse. I suspect there’s a big customer involved somewhere here. I mean, UMPCs are niche but this looks to be extremely

Take a look at the thread running on another pc/phone article (Magic W3) from last week. There’s interesting information about a possible 600Mhz clock speed (that would be another stumbling block,) the impressive 1.3W TDP X86 platform and the expected price.

What do you think? Personally I think it will be an interesting test for Oaktrail but you have to wonder why Fujitsu partnered a Ti OMAP platform with the Oaktrail platform when Intel, theoretically, have one phone platform in production and another one due at the end of the year.

Press release is available here.

http://www.fujitsu.com/global/news/pr/archives/month/2011/20110721-01.html

Lenovo Ideapad P1. Lightweight Tablet with Digitiser, Multi-Boot Possibilities

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Go into our product database, select Tablet Devices (Windows), click the weight and screen size column headers and you’ll get a list showing the lightest 10” Windows Tablet. The only device that comes in at under 800gm is the Viliv X10 which, as we now know, isn’t going to happen. The Lenovo Ideapad P1will be dropping into that list very shortly as one of the lightest Windows Tablets there is. It’s a trend that’s happening more and more now that Oaktrail is here. The great thing is that battery life is going up at the same time and this one even has a digitiser layer. We broke news about the P1 when it was being referred to as the Ideapad Slate back at CES. Lets take a closer look.

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Full gallery here.

Full specifications and news tracking  here.

The Ideapad P1 will go head-to-head with devices like the HP Slate 500 and Fujitsu Q550 as alternative dual-input slates but I have a feeling the P1 will get quite a lot of attention based on the name.

The 1.5Ghz Oaktrail platform is certainly not going to be a powerful one. Unzipping large packages will be a chore as will any serious multitasking but the battery life should compensate for that with something like a 6W average drain. Expect the P1 to last for 6hrs with Wifi on. The digitiser layer, 3G options, 2GB RAM options, 32GB or 64GB SSD storage, Windows 7 OS options, a docking port and a high-resolution 1280×800 screen mean this is likely to be interesting to many of our audience here.

The other interesting thing is the possibility of Meego and Android for the Ideapad P1. Lenovo have good relationship with the Intel marketing groups. The Ideapad S10 3T was used as a reference netbook for Meego development so there’s a good chance that the Ideapad P1 will get picked up as a reference Oaktrail device for Meego and Android and that could mean even longer battery life and a good reason to think about a 7” version. In fact, reading through the presentation PDF (Available here), it also looks like Lenovo might be offering an app-store. This could be Intel AppUp-based which leans further towards an Intel relationship and increases the chances of Lenovo exploring a Meego build. Yes, it’s a tenuous link but one we need to keep an eye on. Meego-based Chromepad anyone? Multi-boot on this tablet could give the user an important choice.

The Lenovo Ideapad P1 is, unfortunately, targeted for Q4 which means we’ll probably see it at IDF and IFA shows in September with availability in October or November. It’s a shame it’s taking this long to bring it to market as for those that see more than Engadgets fasion-focused eyes, this is an interesting option.

Oaktrail Windows Tablet Reviews Start Slowly at GottaBeMobile

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A few days ago I found a CPU-Mark score for the ‘Oaktrail’ Z670 CPU. It confirms to us in no uncertain terms that the 1.5Ghz single core Atom CPU is, relative to other X86 CPUs, extremely weak and really no different from the first generation Atom CPUs that came before it. The difference with Oaktrail is that the memory and graphics speeds should be vastly superior to that which we saw on the ‘UMPC’ platform, Menlow, over the last few years. Coupled with quality components and good engineering it should be able to provide an acceptable Windows tablet experience and offer some interesting battery life scenarios too. In theory.

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In practice we’re going to have to wait for more Oaktrail Windows tablet hands-on and it looks like the wait for the first Oaktrail based devices has finally come to an end. In Germany the Fujitsu Stylistic Q550 is now shipping and, even better, the guys at Gottabemobile have got both the Fujitsu Q550 and Motion Computing CL900 in their hands. Sumocat (@sumocats) has the Q550 and Chris Lucksted (@DangerousWit) has the CL900.

Lets start with the Q550 and it’s not a good start at all. A ‘bitter core’ is how Sumocat refers to the processor and in the video he’s included in his Fujitsu Stylistic Q550 review, you can see the tablet struggling to handle the Gottabemobile home page with flash turned on. This is an area where GPU, memory and disk speed have little affect because it’s mostly about the CPU working to render the page and execute javascript and flash – a tough challenge and one that got worse since Atom was introduced. The performance we’re seeing here is nothing better than Tegra 2 tablets running Honeycomb. Again, back when Atom was introduced, there was no ARM competitor so this lack of CPU performance increase is now very apparent. Application startup time is fast though and, of course, you’ve got a full desktop operating system at your fingertips which is still the only answer for some customers but it seems obvious that this CPU performance issue is going to be a shock to many customers. Is it the same on the CL900?

Part 1 of the CL900 review series is already up. Unfortunately this article doesn’t include any comments about performance or battery life so we’ll have to wait although reading this line was quite the tease…

a 43 WHr battery providing up to 8 hours of runtime with a 4:1 work/charge ratio allowing the CL900 to charge from zero to full in two hours.

I’m not sure if that’s the marketing talking there or the real world testing. An average 5W drain would be something to talk about. Flipping back to the Q550 review you’ll see some discussion of that in the comments. Sure enough, with the screen brightness turned low, but still usable, there was an indicated 8hrs battery life on the Q550. This is with the 4-cell, 38Wh battery which means Oaktrail is indeed running in a very low power envelope.

It’s the power-envelope that’s the key here. It’s allowed the 10” Windows tablet design to drop the fans and shrink to under 2lb (about 800gm.) The question is, is it fast enough? The trade-off could be too much for some, especially as we’re talking about pro-mobile users here. The Q550 customers aren’t exactly casual internet users.

I’ll be interested to see some SSD speed tests and GPU tests done on the Oaktrail platform and to do some more tests on the SSD (which could, in theory, be struggling and blocking if it’s not good enough.) We’ll also have to wait for more tests. The CL900 part 2 review is expected today.

Evolve III S highlights Meego, Android Battery Life Advantages on Oaktrail

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evolveIIIAbout a year and a half ago I looked deeper into Intel’s Moorestown to report on some of the key features. One of those features was power gating which could significantly reduce the power drain of the platform by turning of areas of the CPU/GPU when they weren’t in use. It’s the feature that brings Intel into the ‘always on’ space but offering a 50x reduction in idle power.  The only problem was that Windows wouldn’t run on the Moorestown platform so it was for Meego and Android only.

Oaktrail, the Z670 and Z650 parts, also have this power gating feature in the same Lincroft CPU and Briertown power management IC that Moorestown offers however, as far as I can see, Intel haven’t ever said that Oaktrail could run at a 50x idle power reduction. It could be that the extra hardware needed for Windows support affects the idle power achievable. Intel have also been quiet about possible battery life advantages of Oaktrail too. We’ve seen encouraging figures but have still yet to see real-life examples of the advantages of an Oaktrail-specific Meego or Android build.

But there still could be some advantages in running and Intel Meego and Android version on Oaktrail due to the extended power states and some claimed battery life figures from Evolve III today show that although there may not be a 50x idle power reduction, there still may be something special that Meego and Android can do to get the best out of the Lincroft/Briertown combination. Evolve are claiming some impressive battery life figures.

  • Windows 7â„¢ 10+ hours
  • Android 16+ hours
  • Maemo 18+ hours
  • We assume that Evolve III are referring to Meego rather than Maemo and we also assume that these are idle or low-usage battery life figures but even so, there’s a clear difference being claimed there.

    You can find out more about the Evolve III Maestro S here. We suspect that you’ll see this design popping up under different brands globally. The Viewsonic Viewpad 10 Pro is likely to be using the same hardware so watch out for similar claims for Viewsonic.

    Note: Intel are maintaining the OSPM package for MeeGo. We assume that’s the case for their Android build too.

    Notes OSPM (Operating System Power Management) is the name of the software feature-set that can interface with the new features and power-states. S0i1 and S0i3 are the unique power-states that the Moorestown and Oaktrail platforms offer.

    Note ‘Briertown’ was a working name for the power management IC. Compatible IC’s are available from Renesas, Freescale and Maxim. More information below.

    • Renesas (μPD9975/μPD9977) (link)
    • Freescale (SC900844JVK) (PDF)
    • Maxim (MAX8958) (PDF)

    Why Android on Oaktrail? The Answer Should be Confirmed at Computex

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    imageWith rumors of Android / Oaktrail tablets flying around, you might wonder why? Intel based tablets aren’t exactly renowned for their long battery life and the open-source Android versions we’ve seen so far are a lot different to the Google-enhanced Android tablets we know from the ARM world but these two issues can change and this week at Computex we should have the first chance to confirm this.

    Firstly, Intel and Google should be able to work together on approved Android builds that include Google applications and the very important market. Why? Intel is obviously big enough to have a say in the matter and they should be able to present big-brand customers to Google too. They’re also founding members of the Open Handset Alliance so they’ve contributed for a number of years now. Expect on-stage demos to include Google applications or at least a promise of Google applications. [Update: Confirmed now]

    Secondly, Oaktrail, Intel’s new platform, is different. It contains power-saving features that Windows just can’t control. An Intel Android build specifically optimised for Oaktrail could enable some quite impressive idle figures. By utilising all the available power-saving features, it could be possible to present a device that falls in the same battery life range as an ARM device. That should surprise quite a few people. Given some of the processing power advantages too, you should see performance that pushes Honeycomb performance ahead of some of its rivals.

    I’m not saying that the Intel / Oaktrail / Honeycomb tablets  will be better than ARM-based tablets in any significant manner but the fact that they hit similar battery life, weight, size and performance figures should cause people to sit up and take note. Even more so, If manufacturers show multi-boot Windows capability or even virtualised operating systems running concurrently, you could be looking at a very special unique selling point.

    Watch out for Viewsonic, Acer, ASUS and Lenovo at Computex.

    Dreambook Epad F10 – Oaktrail Tablet Available Soon

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    Recently launched and soon to be  available is this Oaktrail-based tablet that will be one to watch out for at Computex. If you’re looking for a newer i86-based device, Pioneer Computers are offering it for under $US 550 with 16GB of storage and 1GB of RAM and it could be an interesting device for Windows, Meego and Android. Oaktrail should offer much better battery life than Pinetrail-based devices (N450, N550 etc) although we expect the performance will be slightly lower. There’s also the chance to squeeze more out of it with future versions of Meego and Intel’s Android build. We’re expecting to hear more about the latter at Computex.

    At 700gm it equals the weight of many of the Android tablets out there but we have noted that Ethernet, 3G and Bluetooth are supplied by PCI-E Mini ports which, although nice and modular, aren’t the way to integrate wireless for power efficiency.

    Keep an eye out for more Oaktrail solutions at Computex over the next few days. Here’s a list of the Oaktrail devices we already have in the database.

    iBuddie MeeGo Tablet Pics and Video

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    Hat tip to @tnkgrl from Engadget who spotted this Oaktrail tablet running Meego with the tablet UX and Intel Appup app store. it turns out its the ECS S10 Oaktrail tablet that we saw at CeBIT which means it’s an OED product looking for a customer. You may or may not see this in the shops.

    Working for our sister site Meegonews this week I tracked down that tablet and delved a little deeper into the device to discover it’s relatively light and makes a far better demonstrator product than the 11.6” Intel tablets that most of the demonstrations are running on at MeeGo Conference. It’s also got the AppUp store software pre-installed and you’ll even see a Skype icon. It will be at Computex next week (as will ECS) so hopefully we’ll get more information about when this is going to be available. If it’s not going to be available as an end product, may we suggest that Intel start giving these out at their developer events?

    Source: pics and video.

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    There’s a full gallery available here and the video is shown below.



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