Sony teaser. Likely to be the UMPC that everyone will call a netbook!

Posted on 22 December 2008, Last updated on 11 November 2019 by

Theres a new Sony teaser ad live on the Sony New Zealand website which promises a product that will change the way you look at laptops. It could be the product that went through the FCC a few weeks ago.

Sony teaser site says “revolutionary new VAIO” coming January 9th – Engadget

42 Comments For This Post

  1. JC says:

    Does that mean the Everun Note is really a UMPC?

  2. admin says:

    I call it a umpc but that doesn’t mean it really is a umpc!
    It ill be interesting to see what happens ith the Sony device.
    Steve

  3. ecsk2 says:

    Well it looks like the WAIT ISN’T OVER just yet :)

    http://www.sony.co.nz/vaio/thewaitisover

  4. ecsk2 says:

    Looks like 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n (HT20 and HT40) I’m not familiar with the HT myself, is that 2.4 and 5Ghz?

    https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1037409&native_or_pdf=pdf

  5. ecsk2 says:

    http://www.sizeasy.com/page/size_comparison/20644-PCG-1P1L-vs-UX
    Netbook or MID?
    I guess these numbers are taken from the Engadget estimated

    http://www.small-laptops.com/2008/12/01/pcg-1p1l-and-pcg-1p2l-sonys-vaio-netbook/

  6. ecsk2 says:

    Playing with PS a bit myself I come up with these kind of porportions
    http://www.sizeasy.com/page/size_comparison/20838-PCG-1P1L-vs-PCG-my-estimate-vs-UX

    Purple being the one I get from using numbers given here:
    https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1039180&native_or_pdf=pdf

    Though obvious the thickness of 20mm is just as much a wild guess as Engadget.

  7. JeffBlagnac says:

    For the Sony teaser, there is 2 choices :
    – the PCG-1P1L which you have put the picture here and we talk about here :
    http://www.netbook3g.com/netbook/un-notebook-cdmaevdo-chez-sony-netbook
    – the PCG-4R1L, we have talk about it :
    http://www.netbook3g.com/netbook-3g/pcg-4r1l-un-autre-notebook-sony-avec-3g-et-gps-integres
    dimensions are approximatively 27cm x 20cm, it has Wifi, bluetooth, 3G et GPS with Gobi chipset and run on Windows
    So, for the January 9th, it could be one of these …
    Jeff

  8. ecsk2 says:

    If this picture we’ve been seeing (above) is the PCG-1P1L is anything close to accurate there’s no way it could be 270mm and 200mm as that would be very close to square!? It also doesn’t make any sense the other netbooks are in the range of 200+mm wide and just between 100 and 200 deep.

  9. ecsk2 says:

    See that “Dimensions estimées : 25cm * 12cm” at http://www.netbook3g.com/netbook/un-notebook-cdmaevdo-chez-sony-netbook is a lot mooe like it!

    I’m not sure why they’d put this is CM though it’d be more common to use mm.

  10. ecsk2 says:

    I guess they are saying ( http://www.netbook3g.com/netbook/un-notebook-cdmaevdo-chez-sony-netbook ) thatit would be similar in size to the UMID?

    http://jkkmobile.blogspot.com/2008/11/meet-umid-mid-315g-super-mini-laptop.html

    Give me that with 3G from Sony and I think I’d be happy for a while!!!

  11. JeffBlagnac says:

    27cmx20cm is for another notebook just appeared last week-end, the PCG-4R1L, not the PCG-1P1L above.
    Follow my second link http://www.netbook3g.com/netbook-3g/pcg-4r1l-un-autre-notebook-sony-avec-3g-et-gps-integres and you will see information about an other “notebook” from Sony appeared on December 19th, but you don’t heard about it anywhere else because we was the only one who talk about it (we don’t know why) :
    So, the Jan 9th, we could discover two new Sony “notebook” : an UMPC with the PCG-1P1L and a netbook with the 4R1L
    Jeff

  12. ecsk2 says:

    But the 270mmx200mm (27x20cm) sounds more like some tablet or something, it doesn’t sound like dimensions of any Netbook/Laptop or MID!?

  13. JeffBlagnac says:

    http://event.asus.com/eeepc/comparison/eeepc_comparison.htm
    Dimensions for Asus Eee PC 1000* are 266mm(W) x 191.2mm(D), so this Sony 4R1L is just a little bigger than the Asus Eee PC 1000*. But we haven’t enough information to tell exactly in which category it should be classified. Perhaps, this is a classic ultra-portable VAIO with high cost…
    The good news is the integrateg 3G modem with this 2 models, I wish for 2009 an integrated 3G modem for each new MID/UMPC/netbook/laptop ;-)

  14. ecsk2 says:

    Ok yeah those EEE 1000 are getting into the size where I’ve lost interest, but you’re right it would be “up” in that size. I have however had at least one from each generation of the Sony “subnotebooks” they’ve had over the past few years, prior to the advent of the Netbooks.

  15. ecsk2 says:

    Anyone have ideas where this pic is from?
    http://www.netbook3g.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/sony-pcg-4r1l-label-location-t.jpg

  16. scoobie says:

    I think its from the FCC too. Appeared in the past week

  17. ecsk2 says:

    OK but taken down (from FCC) I guess?

  18. JeffBlagnac says:

    Yes, I know where the pic come from, I wrote the post ;-)
    Yes, it comes from FCC :
    https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1046798&native_or_pdf=pdf
    https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1046797&native_or_pdf=pdf

  19. ecsk2 says:

    There you go thanx! Don’t know why I didn’t see/find it on there!

  20. Broch's says:

    the revolutionary new feature is that it will lose the touchpad/palmrest instead replacing it with an “optical bar” (not optical point) which will allow for multitouch input.

    used 1 in the lab a few weeks ago (not on the Sony) & they work fantastic.

  21. Corrupted Mind says:

    I’m willing to bet my apartment its not a netbook. Sony will be the last consumer electronics company to devour themselves by slicing their margins and pricing a mini-note at ASUS/ACER prices. Sony are well into the miniturisation process already and have substantial experience with the TX and UX series lappies. A netbook would devour their margins and their premium “marquee” brand status. I’m intrigued to see what they will be releasing and precisely what bracket it will fall into. I sense it will be a mixture of UX and netbook – but whatever it is, it will have that premium Sony price tag!

  22. ecsk2 says:

    Where is your apartment? :)

    A Netbook doesn’t have to cost $500 to be a Netbook by definition its a “light-weight, low-cost, energy-efficient, highly portable laptop suitable for web browsing, email and general purpose applications — primarily noted for its small form factor.” so some would argue that Sony has already had Netbooks since they’ve had sub notebooks with SSD but by no means were they “low-cost” so if Sony brought out a computer that would be low-cost by Sony standards it would be a Netbook, right? Also please don’t think that just because the price is lower that you won’t make good profit margins just look at the Sony PSP it’s listed for $169 and $199 on their own webpage http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644568895 though I’m no gamer, the fact that they can sell this hardware for $169 I think is VERY LOW PRICE, no?

  23. Raggamofyn says:

    And little did they know, that Sony’s diminuitive device wa, in all actuality, a touch slate.

    One can dream, no?

  24. scoobie says:

    The first few minutes in the Sony video interview below confirms their strategy:
    – current netbooks are too small – conclusion = there’s will be bigger
    – current netbooks aren’t small enough to be pocketable = they are committed to pocketable devices as well still (good)

    So as others have posted above I think we are looking at a very small device and a bigger than netbook sized device but still smaller than the TT

    http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/12/22/dont-hold-your-breat.html

  25. ecsk2 says:

    Having tried to use the “info” available so far it would appear as this (smaller) device won’t be any smaller (perhaps slightly bigger!) than the Sharp (Willcom) D4, and I believe I’m alone when I say if that’s the case my interest is next into non existant, oh yes I’ll still be following it but wouldn’t buy it. I mean the Sony UX’s were ok thoigh a bit thick, this one seems to be a lot wider :(

  26. scoobie says:

    Teaser now on Sony Japan showing the actual size. It’s another Raon UMPC!

    http://www.vaio.sony.co.jp/

  27. John says:

    Yeah, it seems like Everun Note done right (hopefully!). Which means more width(to accommodate an adequate keyboard), less depth and thickness (to fit into the woman’s purse), and a possibly ingenious way to dispense with the trackpad. For me, the best way to do the latter would be a high quality capacitive touchscreen ala iPhone. What we desperately need for devices of this kind however, is a finger-friendly OS…

  28. ecsk2 says:

    I don’t know I feel the Netbook/MID category division as we have seen it so far is quite decent with the EEE 7xx/9xx being in the smaller end of Netbooks, but MIDs being for THUMBBOARDING. I have a hard time seeing devices like the Everun Note catching on much, why? Because there’s basically two category of people, those who WANT/NEED to be able to touch type, and then the other (like myself) that really aren’t going to settle for anything (in the long run) that isn’t pocketable.

    So for me these devices that aren’t really neither (good for touch typing NOR pocketable) lacks the great appeal for either category of customer. For me personally as it stands and with the pricing right now I am ok with having one EEE for the netbooking and the Aigo for MIDing. I’m actually having a harder and harder time seeing ONE device replacing both in the near future.

  29. ecsk2 says:

    :)

    http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6179/sonyvaioyc1.jpg

    :)

  30. ecsk2 says:

    LOLOL that’s is hilarious! For anyone who knows how imageshack works, should find something quite interesting with that link, there something “random” about that link that just HAPPENED to not be so random! LOL

  31. Amin says:

    Have you seen this?
    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jp.sonystyle.com%2FStyle-a%2FSpecial%2FNew_mobile%2Findex.html&sl=ja&tl=en

    It seems a high end umpc as it has vista Ultimate.
    I don’t know why guys at Sony don’t want to offer any cheapy!

  32. ts41114 says:

    Watch this!

    http://vaio.sony.co.jp/

  33. ecsk2 says:

    We already did YESTERDAY :) see above a bit…

  34. ecsk2 says:

    “Breaking News”
    http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/25/sony-p-series-netbook-unveiled-underwhelming/

  35. deriuqer says:

    Would love to go for a Fujitsu (U2010/U30*) instead of a netbook (NC10) but battery life is too low and price too high.I think the Sony will be in the same size/battery life/price category as the Fujitsu,too bad.

  36. ecsk2 says:

    Interesting picture:

    http://asia.cnet.com/u//020/148/aa76e41249579aa7400x400.jpg

  37. ecsk2 says:

    From here:

    http://asia.cnet.com/blogs/digihunter/post.htm?id=63008075

  38. Al says:

    If they made it 4″ wide then it might have a chance of being jacket pocket in size then it would revolutionize the way we think of a laptop. But if it is still too large to carry without a bag of some sort it is not that revolutionary at all.

  39. Amin says:

    The picture has sth wrong.Look at the red point in the middle.Isn’t it copied from IBM or Lenovo? The upper row has 17 keys! What are they? And just left the arrows there are 11! All in all there are 90 keys? whats going on there? Is it just a fake or ?

  40. deriuqer says:

    Sony picturebook with Atom and without touchpad area. *yawn*

    I dont like it,I like the Fujitsu form factor way better.I prefer small and thick devices with less wideness.

  41. ecsk2 says:

    It turns out to be a PS’ped picture according to Engadget.

  42. Maii says:

    Hi guys

    Have you had a look at the Sonystyle uk site? the new beast,the 8″ P notebook that attracted so much attention at CES is priced at 1.368.- pounds sterling.
    Beat that…..

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