Pocketables reviews the Aigo P8860 MID.

Updated on 22 November 2008 by

I’m going to keep this short otherwise I’ll end-up writing reams of thoughts (many negative) that are in my head about the Aigo MID I also have (thanks to Mobilx.) I’m going to save those thoughts for my own hands-on post.

aigo-kb Pocketables have posted a review of the Aigo 8860 MID.  Personally, I think she’s being too kind as, out of the box, this is like the Christmas present that wasn’t the one you asked for. The platform is fantastic but this product is not for the average consumer right now. Fingers crossed that there are some early adopters that believe in the platform (as I do) and have time and energy to start improving the basic software suite and that Midlinux take their feedback and pipe it back into the software updater. As with all of the Moblin implementations I’ve seen so far though, there doesn’t seem to be any formal channel for this which could put developers off.

More links, info, specs etc in the Aigo MID product page.

17 Comments For This Post

  1. turn.self.off says:

    yep, it seems that most treat linux as a simple way to make in-house firmwares, rather then attempt to leverage the power of the community.

    over at ITT, people do just as much fighting nokia’s policies as they do actually look at code, from the impression i have. and i fear the same will be seen on these devices.

  2. turn.self.off says:

    as in, they are treating linux as a kind of featurephone firmware, something to not be changed by the users or anyone else but the company that made the device.

    this goes against the grain of the GPL, the usual community attitude, and also the fact that one is looking at a cpu instruction set that is the same as what one find on desktop and laptop computers more often then not.

  3. turn.self.off says:

    ugh, i keep hitting submit to soon.

    this is something that irked me about jkk’s stance the other night, he was blaming linux for something that is completely in the hands of the companies making these devices.

    if they had been open from day one, maybe releasing test firmwares for use in virtual machines before the actual product, then one would see easy to use packages more or less from day one.

    but now the people have to work around attempts at locking from the companies as well as adapting existing software to new ui environments.

  4. tjs says:

    To my knowledge RedFlag has never worked with community nor do they show any interest in doing so. Even getting the software development kit for Midinux requires NDA so it’s unavailable for majority of developers.

    Intel says Moblin compatibility specification fixes this problem but there’s no Moblin compatible SDK yet either and a spec can’t never substitute a real distro.

    One can just wish that device vendors would select components from linux-friendly companies. That would allow people to use Ubuntu which is rich, flexible and reliable out of the box :)

  5. turn.self.off says:

    in other words, it could not be a worse supplier of software for this hardware…

  6. John in Norway says:

    I totally agree. I had the chance of a Nokia N810 for a quarter of the price of the Aigo but I turned it down. Why? Because there wasn’t any Office compatible programs on it and, from what I’ve read in various forums, it doesn’t look like there will be. What a ridiculous state of affairs.

  7. turn.self.off says:

    well, not entirely true. one can run openoffice via this:
    http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24272

  8. Robert says:

    Greetings:

    I want to get this straight, in Europe the Aigo Mid is available with 3G yes.
    But the review at Pocketables the Mid did not have 3G, and sells for $699.00US.
    I really can not see the reasoning in paying that much for a Linux based Mid.
    Although paying $699.00 for a MID with 3G and Windows XP sounds more reasonable.
    If Aigo has started a hype for MID’s with Windows XP, I’m sure we will see more MID’s with this OS and the price will surely be lower.
    Regards Robert

  9. turn.self.off says:

    are mid’s (in the intel definition) even supposed to run windows?

    or will this be another netbook “disaster” where people start putting windows on them because they can, microsoft doing a bit of licence modification, and the hardware companies starting to ship high end mids with windows, leading to the linux ones joining the do-do?

  10. Chippy says:

    Actually, yes.
    MIDs running windows was described to be by the INtel as niche, productivity devices also known as UMPCs.

    At least a working XP build would be rich, flexible and reliable out of the box.

    S.

  11. turn.self.off says:

    well, if someone would slap ubuntu on these things rather then some attempt at a linux based feature-firmware, then it would be just as rich, flexible and reliable out of the box.

  12. Chippy says:

    The Gigabyte M528 was the one due to be shipping with 3G. Not the Aigo although you will probably see versions of the Aigo in 2009 wih 3G.

    I agree that this device is too expansive without 3G and a decent OS unless you 1) Can justify buying it for its browsing strengths alone 2) Want to develop or hack with it. 3) Have faith that either XP or a better Midinux build is coming.

    Steve.

  13. Al says:

    To me what they and the entire MID market needs to do is just increase the memory so you can sell them with full Windows built in and more importantly modify the form factor so that they have a good touch type input keyboard. Something like a modern Psion would be what would sell like hot cakes but only if it ran full Windows; most people are not going to for a Linux computer, at least not mainstream users.

  14. Sarig says:

    So…like a netbook then?

  15. Vakeros says:

    No, Not like a netbook. A netbook is basically a smaller, generally under-powered laptop. But is way bigger than a Psion or a MID like the Aigo. The difference is pocketability and portability.

  16. admin says:

    Some info about Ubuntu-MID and Ubuntu-UMPC now available.
    http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/10/ubuntu-umpc-ubuntu-mid-810-launch-time-to-join-the-party

  17. ArchiMark says:

    It seems like people are criticizing the Aigo for several things that it wasn’t meant or designed for…..

    1) AFAIK, this was meant for consumers in the Asian market, not Europe or USA…I bought one knowing this (so, gray-market…) and realized going into purchase that it was designed for non-Asians and thus would likely need some hacking on it to make it OK for me….kind of like what happened in the Zaurus community…

    2) Also, knew that given the market it was designed for and the price-point, it would probably not have as high a build quality as an OQO or Sony….

    3) Knew when buying it that it did not have built-in 3G….so, don’t complain that it doesn’t have it…

    4) My only real criticism of the Aigo has to do with the fact that even though it has linux OS, Midinux, Aigo released it in a ‘locked-down’ fashion, that seems very contrary to the open nature of linux. Therefore, in order to circumvent that you need to hack it a bit or as others want to do, put XP on it….

    Anyway, just my 2¢…..

    ;-)

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