Update: Full review now available.
“This new machine from Raon Digital is designed for power users like you, not for children.”
So say Raon Digital’s marketing people via the sales brochure I just received for their new dual-core AMD-Turion based Everun Note . There’s nothing new in the brochure apart from new images showing the underside of the device (memory, disk and PCI-express mini accessible) and a revised weight (down to 748gm)
This balance of leading-edge power, battery life and miniaturisation doesn’t come cheap but in the world of pro-mo devices, this is really on-the-mark. The recommended sales price is $879 (US, before tax.) which means its way, way cheaper than the other high-performance UMPCs, the Sony UX and the Q1 Ultra Premium and it includes a 16mm pitch keyboard and easy 3G upgrade path. With Windows XP Home (yes, I know some of you would be looking for TE or Vista) it will really fly.
They are definitely targeting the pro-mo set and what better place to be sending a product sample than to Chippy at UMPCPortal. Yes, there’s one in the post and as I said before, when it arrives, you can expect a very long live session with it!
So what do you think of the price/feature balance? End users will be paying over $900 including tax and postage so it’s not cheap. Many of you will question why someone needs anything other than an Eee PC 901, why its been given a touchscreen and why there’s no mousepad (its an optical mouse) and you’d be correct in assuming that most people won’t be able to justify the cost of this but there are a great many people that need the power and are happy to pay for a 30% weight reduction, a 50% reduction in total volume and nearly double the raw processing power. Does it resonate with you?
All four pages of the PDF are now in the gallery and I’ve updated the database to reflect the latest information.
Note: exact availability is unknown at the moment.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:07 pm
When did it turn white?!
I’ve been avoiding netbooks, as they don’t solve my issues. I need a powerful laptop, and anything small and powerful has traditionally been hideously expensive.
So I’m actually very interested in this as I think it could with cope my presentation needs and stop my need to lug a big bag around central London.
The price is pretty good in that respect.
And I liked the optical mouse on the Everun and have never liked touch pads much anyway….
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September 1st, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Wondering how cool this runs and if the screen folds back for tablet mode.
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September 1st, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Sadly it doesn’t have a tablet mode. Which is a bit of a missed opportunity with the touch screen.
The heat/noise issues will be amongst the first I’ll be pressing Chippy on….
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September 1st, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Expandability would be important to me. With a 64-bit dual core in there, I would ideally love to put vista 64 on it with a single 4-gig memory chip (yes I know, Vista - but their 64 bit version is actually not bad). A unit that size running a 64-bit OS with 4 gigs of ram would be amazing!
Battery life is also my concern and I think it remains to be seen if this machine can operate for any length of time in a 3d environment (yes, I’m a gamer *g*). I can live with mediocre battery life if I have too, but loading up a game and having the battery die after 40 minutes would be a bit of a let down.
Also, where is the swivel screen!? Is there even a point to having a touch screen without it?
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September 1st, 2008 at 5:48 pm
I think, that everun idea is to fully open the screen
on 180 degree and because this unit is really small and relatively light, use it fully opened as tablet.
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September 1st, 2008 at 5:57 pm
I’m sure you are right. Clearly the screen can go flat for thumb-board style typing and this ‘could’ work as a tablet.
But that’s rubbish and shows they haven’t thought about what users really want. Fujitsu and the U2010 got the design right in that respect.
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September 1st, 2008 at 6:36 pm
‘What users want’?
Everun obviously chose to go for the smallest form factor and that means leaving out the swivel screen hinge.
We all want different things so that statement is close to NULL!
S.
September 1st, 2008 at 7:18 pm
That is of course true, I was somewhat over generalising there.
Maybe ‘What touch screen users want?’ would be a better statement?
I could be wrong, but I would imagine anyone seriously using the touchscreen would want the option of a tablet form factor? I think it could be done in a similar design.
But one would assume Raon considered and rejected the possibility for whatever reason companies do. (Cash mainly)
September 1st, 2008 at 7:22 pm
I do believe that people who look for a tablet form factor are more inclined to want a heavy touch screen which would make inking possible… soft touch screen makes sense in a normal netbook form.
September 1st, 2008 at 8:46 pm
i’m quite heavy touch user and i actually prefer laptop design over tablet or swivel..
..and i hate hard touch as i don’t ink.
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September 1st, 2008 at 3:37 pm
so, are you looking at your new workhorse there chippy?
you got a lot of mileage out of the everun so…
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September 1st, 2008 at 3:44 pm
this could be a wonderful device with a swivel screen… is there any remote chance they’ll launch a tablet possibility?
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September 1st, 2008 at 4:48 pm
I doubt it. The case would need a complete redesign.
Maybe if there’s enough interest?
Steve.
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September 4th, 2008 at 1:58 am
There is, obviously, enough interest. It´s a topic that comes over and over again. They could offer both models and they probably wouldn´t compite.
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September 1st, 2008 at 3:46 pm
I haven’t seen anything written about this device that talks about whether the memory is expandable. If it’s not, I cannot see a point to all that power–I’d want to do what Zapgun is suggesting. If it is expandable, I can certainly see buying one early next year, even with my SC3 scheduled to arrive this week.
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September 1st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
I guess it will take 2GB with no problem.
Its a one-slot mem slot. HOw big can you get a so-dimm these days? I feel sure the Turion 64 would support it.
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September 1st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
4 gig modules are out these days… I think that’s the largest ones just now.
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September 2nd, 2008 at 12:40 am
Thx Zapgun.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:48 pm
i will be most curious about the battery life & how well the optical mouse works. i like the idea of an optical mouse as you can make a laptop MUCH smaller without a touchpad & palmrest area.
i really wish they would release an Atom version for all of us that dont need that much power & would prefer extra battery life.
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September 1st, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Chippy,
when do you hope to have this device in your hands?
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September 1st, 2008 at 4:46 pm
its on its way from Asia right now. Give it 5-7 days for shipping and customs.
Steve.
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September 1st, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Any chance you could also provide a link to the actual pdf instead of the pdf images?
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September 1st, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Oh crap, the images arent as good as I though.
Will post the PDF in a minute.
Steve.
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September 1st, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Will it be Vista upgradable?
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September 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Vista driver status unknown at this stage.
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September 1st, 2008 at 4:46 pm
One image appears to show a D-SUB 15 connector, implying external monitor connectivity, but the database does not mention that.
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September 1st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Images fixed. You can now see full size, raw versions.
Steve.
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September 1st, 2008 at 5:31 pm
heh, the keyboard was basically weird…
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September 1st, 2008 at 5:55 pm
I don’t see the .pdf just the .jpg’s.
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September 1st, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Yup. Just the jpgs. They’re the same. Would rather keep everything in the gallery for better overview.
S.
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September 1st, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Please announce that life session early enough
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September 1st, 2008 at 5:53 pm
+ Interests me..
+ Touch screen, good.
+ No touch pad, good.
+ Size & weight, great.
- Not sure about the processor though. Bound to be something groovier just around the corner.
- Price ok, cheaper always better.
? How good screen outdoors.
? Battery life / extended battery options.
? Fast SSD would be good.
? Let us know what kind of games this can play.
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September 1st, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Apart from the gaming aspect, which I think will kill the battery, those are my questions too plus the following.
? Keyboard quality and layout
? Optical mouse
? DO I need so much power?
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September 1st, 2008 at 7:02 pm
I really like the size and design, but the keyboard layout is going to stop me from buying one. I wish they would have sacrificed some key size to have a more traditional layout. I’m one of those people who actually use the punctuation and symbol keys near the Enter key. I also agree that the lack of a tablet mode is a missed opportunity.
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September 1st, 2008 at 7:13 pm
At least the most important key of all is still there,and not even tiny –> caps lock !
CAPS LOCK FTW !!!
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September 1st, 2008 at 8:27 pm
No swivel screen means I am not interested. 7″ is a bit too small for my personal taste. And 900$ is a bit high too.
But for a powerful 8.9″ with a swivel screen and long battery life I would have paid that price. My only choice ATM for something just close under 1k$ is the m912m.
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September 1st, 2008 at 10:49 pm
pass for me, add 3g and it will be over the 1k
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September 1st, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Very nice - and given the problems that the SC3 seems to be having, this is looking like it may be my next UMPC (assuming that it is available in the near future).
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September 2nd, 2008 at 12:07 am
I’ve got the SX. I would recommend it over this (though the price is slightly higher.
Kid
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September 1st, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Waiting for review of this thing
Still curious about battery life.
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September 1st, 2008 at 11:49 pm
I’m curious about the fan noise (I have read its really loud) and lack of a Vista option
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September 1st, 2008 at 11:50 pm
article have hit engadget, meltdown in 3.. 2.. 1..
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September 2nd, 2008 at 12:39 am
Hoping that my latest optimisations can handle it. So far so good.
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September 2nd, 2008 at 12:06 am
Battery life is terrible for the price. Not really usable for business.
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September 2nd, 2008 at 12:43 am
The 60GB 1.8 Hard disk is not enough, even 80GB doesn’t come close.
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September 2nd, 2008 at 12:59 am
I haven’t fondled an MSI Wind yet, so STFU. But yeah, I’m beginning to get interested in this. The *horsepower* is what’s attractive to me (he said, having cursed mightily at his PC all weekend!).
Chippy, I want you to do a SEPARATE post that asks us to set the agenda for your live fondle of this. Each of us wants to know SPECIFIC things and if you can demonstrate those live, it’d be great. Here’s mine:
1) External monitor use
2) External USB/BT keyboard use
3) External USB/BT mouse use
4) GOOGLE CHROME BROWSER on it
5) Firefox on it
– DUAL BROWSER STRESS TEST — open GINORMOUS sites on it in MANY MANY Tabs with each browser (separately, not both browsers at once!)
6) Skype video
7) YouTube/Veoh/hulu video playback
Offline: Battery life stress test & how long to recharge fully.
What I want to know RIGHT NOW: When your PDF JPEGs are shown at the largest size, are those photos of it now ACTUAL DEVICE SIZE? If so, I’d like to do a printout a cut-out for paper fondling.
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September 2nd, 2008 at 1:51 am
You havent…what did you say about the MSI Wind Mike? Get out there and buy one for goodness sake. Sell it for $100 loss a few months later and then buy a real movile device. Commit and learn I say!
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September 2nd, 2008 at 10:26 pm
There is no frikkin MSI Wind in the wild live that I can yet fondle! I blame all you Europeans. Particularly all of Finland, for hiding them from me!
Man, Google’s Chrome should *fly* on that Everun. I’m using it right now on my crappy desktop and it’s like having a new PC! On *great* hardware it should be just about miraculous!
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September 3rd, 2008 at 12:43 am
I’d like to see Chrome on the original Everun.
It’s unbelievably quick on my PC compared to FF3 and IE7.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:17 am
“With Windows XP Home (yes, I know some of you would be looking for TE or Vista) it will really fly.”
And some of us wont even consider it because there’s no mention of a vendor supported linux for it.
A convertible/twist screen would be cool, too.
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September 2nd, 2008 at 1:18 pm
PDF brochure here:
http://downloads.conics.net/everun/everun_note.pdf
should be available to ship from approx Setp 19th 2008
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September 2nd, 2008 at 1:37 pm
@Brett Top man!
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September 2nd, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Where is the AMD PUMA chipset???????????????????
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September 2nd, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Yup. I have confirmation on the ship date now too. Resellers will be able to get it to customers for the 3rd week of Sept.
My demo device has shipped and I have the manual that I will check out later.
One bit of important info i’ve already seen:
“EVERUN NOTE has 3 different power managing program, PS and AUTO in two different modes (AUTO w/o AC input and AUTO with AC input). Full CPU power will be reached only by AUTO with AC connected.”
Thats what I expected. The device will be a full-power table-topper but convert to power-saving mode when mobile. The question is, how much processing power is available when mobile. Even if it’s 50%, its still not bad!
Steve.
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September 7th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
The Asus 901 is much better value. I would never pay such a high price for a machine like this. Anyone would have to be insane to buy this machine at such a price. Stupid price. Asus 901 is the best.
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September 8th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
The Asus 901 and the Everun note are not even in the same class. The Asus 901 is nowhere near as powerful with its 1.6GHz Atom N270. If you do not need much power then this is fine since it performs near the level of a 900MHZ Intel Celeron.
However, if you really require some real processing power then the Everun with its AMD Dual Core is for you. Saying that the Asus 901 is the best makes no sense since every individual will have different requirements.
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September 8th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Agreed.
There is no way the 901 could run the presentations I have to do, but they would be easy on the Everun.
It’s aimed at a different market altogether.
You could argue the Asus 901 isn’t even the best netbook right now….
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September 22nd, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Today,Everun Note will 1st shipped product arrivale to Japan market.
1st shpped geek guy report found,
http://d60h.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/
It looks like that is very cool gadget.
but,purchase cost was so expensive much of other countries…
99800Yen(JPY)->942.67USD
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November 19th, 2008 at 7:07 am
Just to be clear, the “pci express slot” is a mini pci express slot, SO YOU CAN’T USE EXTERNAL CARDS! SORRY, YOU CAN’T USE GIGABIT ETHERNET WITH THIS.
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