First Baytrail-M ‘Netbooks’ Spotted

Posted on 13 November 2013 by

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Two laptops running Celeron-branded Baytrail-M processors have been spotted for sale in Germany. The Toshiba Satellite NB10t runs the 2.0Ghz dual-core N2810 (7.7W TDP) while the Packard Bell Easy Note ME69 runs with a cheaper 1.4Ghz dual-core N2805 (4.5W TDP.) Prices are interesting, especially considering they have touchscreens.

 

For the 10-inch Packard Bell you’ll pay just 299 Euro. it weighs 1.08KG and comes with 2BG RAM, 1366×768 touch, 28Wh battery, Windows 8.1 and Office Home and Student. That’s really not a bad price.

The Toshiba is likely to be the more productive though as it takes the screen size to 11.6-inches and includes 4GB RAM. It also includes the 2.0Ghz dual-core CPU.  Weight is 1.3KG and it costs a little more: 369 Euro-400 Euro. There’s no Office software included.

Remember you’re getting USB3.0 and SATA-interfaces for the drives on Baytrail-M. The CPU has 64-bit support but you’re getting 32-bit Windows. It’s technically possible that these devices could support Connected Standby / InstantGo but with a spinning hard drive inside both, it’s not within the required specs. SSD upgrade and BIOS hack anyone?

Intel are expecting low-cost 2-in-1’s to appear with Baytrail-M. When we see performance and efficiency figures for these two laptops we’ll get an idea of how those 2-in-1’s will perform. That should come when these devices become available in November. The HP Pavilion X2 2-in-1 is one of the first expected with Baytrail-M. We’re not expecting that before Christmas though.

Source: Mobilegeeks

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14 Comments For This Post

  1. Bob Trail says:

    So am I right to think:

    1. that performance wise Bay Trail M is the same as BT-T, given the same cores and clock speeds??

    2a. CPU power consumption is higher with M
    2b. this difference is even more pronounced when considering the whole platform power?

    So what are the benefits VS BT-T?? How do the costs to OEMs compare? So there is SATA and there should be normal SODIMM sockets too, right? Are the CPUs socketed?
    It seems that the prices involved will need to come down a fair bit to compete with Haswell Celerons like the Acer C720 on the one hand, and convertibles like the Asus T-100 on the other.

    I would really like to see a good comparison of BT-M (or M solutions) and T covering these issues.

  2. Chippy says:

    It’s a good question. SATA, memory speed, plus the dissipation of more heat will probably translate to higher average clock speeds. Prices will come down.

  3. guy says:

    I looked at the some of the Bay Trail M chips (quad core Pentium N3510 and dual core Celeron N2810) and noticed that there are some disadvantages to them compared to Bay Trail T:
    -No Quick Sync (not really interested in this myself)
    -No Turbo Boost
    -No AES-NI

    They may have slightly higher memory speed, 8 GB vs 4 GB max memory, faster GPU clocks, SATA and PCIe IO but to some that may not be enough to offset the disadvantages. I have to re-think my thoughts about getting Bay Trail M vs T devices.

    To answer some of your questions. Like most of the mobile chips, all Bay Trail chips announced are soldered. There’s technically nothing stopping OEMs from using SODIMM slots for Bay Trail T and M devices. The higher TDP/SDP may be due to one or more of the following: higher GPU clocks, extra I/O controllers and/or less strict binning.

  4. Chippy says:

    No Quick-sync. I hadn’t spotted that. None of the Pentium or Celerons support it.
    Turbo is on some versions though.

  5. alan says:

    It seems Intel releases some refreshed Bay Trail M chips recently and some of them have turbo: http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2013/2013110901_Intel_refreshes_Bay_Trail-M_CPU_lineup.html

    Still no Quick Sync and AES-NI though.

  6. guy says:

    Thanks for the info guys. I didn’t know Intel released upgraded versions of the Bay Trail M chips. Hopefully, the Turbo Boost will help during my SSH sessions and especially when doing large file SCP transfers over a LAN without AES-NI. The encryption protocol can take up a lot of CPU resources on high speed LANs. Too bad with AES-NI, power consumption can be minimized.

    Anyway, looking forward to the 4+ GB RAM Bay Trail T/M devices.

  7. animatio says:

    so, who shouted – netbooks are dead? .. hands up

  8. evozero says:

    spotted another model, lenovo flex 10
    http://shop.lenovo.com/ae/en/laptops/ideapad/flex/flex-10/

    selling in Singapore for S$699 (US$562)

  9. Chippy says:

    Well spotted. It’s appearing in Germany under the Medion brand (likely to go to other countries under that brand too.)

  10. Chippy says:

    More info on that Lenovo Flex 10.
    http://www.umpcportal.com/2013/11/lenovo-flex-10-dual-mode-touch-with-baytrail-m-spotted/
    Thanks again Evozero.

  11. lafester says:

    HP Pavilion X2 is on sale right now at Office Depot for $520.
    Might be time to revisit this tablet/convertible.

    Mine is coming tomorrow if you want some info on it.

  12. lafester says:

    Well I’ve had the pavilion x2 for two nights now and its going back.
    Not sure what HP did to it but this thing lags like crazy. Typing out this reply I can get a word or two ahead at times waiting for it to catch up. Battery is 5hrs with dock (second battery) and performance is worse then clover tral. You can see a performance increase when running high memory flash games on facebook but that is low on my list of priorities. Actually as I type this its getting progressively worse. Now its up to like 4 words I have to type while I wait for it to catch up. Honestly can’t wait to get it back in its box.

  13. Chippy says:

    Which model was it exactly? The Core i3 Haswell-Y series was up for $499 at Amazon.com for a while yesterday (sold out in seconds.) There’s an AMD version and Baytrail version too. I assume you had Baytrail, 11-inch?

  14. lafester says:

    Yes it was the 11 inch baytrail M.

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